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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 10:36 am
Here ya go, Rik:
Quote:An individual, human or animal, is defined to be in a conscious state empirically by the behavioral ability to respond meaningfully to stimuli, whereas the loss of consciousness is defined by unresponsiveness... Because baseline brain energy consumption has been shown by 13C magnetic resonance spectroscopy to be almost exclusively dedicated to neuronal signaling, we propose that the high level of brain energy is a necessary property of the conscious state.
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[This study] has identified brain properties for the human in a conscious state that change with loss of consciousness; properties, at the neuronal level which in their interconnections display the characteristics of consciousness.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/27/11096
I just read the abstract and the conclusion, but this study shows a direct correlation between consciousness and brain states. I had a bit of trouble following all the details, but I'm pretty sure this experiment links conscious states with high level brain energy.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 10:36 am
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2018 at 10:58 am by LadyForCamus.)
(April 5, 2018 at 10:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: (April 5, 2018 at 10:03 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sick Ricky is a troll with some serious long game.
Let’s see a debate between Little Rik and MK. I’ll make the popcorn!!! 😂
I got a better idea darling.
Instead making the popcorn can you please explain how the consciousness is a product of the brain?
I am not stepping into your giant pile of endless dog shit. You’re an adult. Get yourself a science education if you really can’t fathom an answer to that question. Your willful ignorance is no one’s problem but your own.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 11:17 am
(April 5, 2018 at 10:36 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Here ya go, Rik:
Quote:An individual, human or animal, is defined to be in a conscious state empirically by the behavioral ability to respond meaningfully to stimuli, whereas the loss of consciousness is defined by unresponsiveness... Because baseline brain energy consumption has been shown by 13C magnetic resonance spectroscopy to be almost exclusively dedicated to neuronal signaling, we propose that the high level of brain energy is a necessary property of the conscious state.
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[This study] has identified brain properties for the human in a conscious state that change with loss of consciousness; properties, at the neuronal level which in their interconnections display the characteristics of consciousness.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/27/11096
I just read the abstract and the conclusion, but this study shows a direct correlation between consciousness and brain states. I had a bit of trouble following all the details, but I'm pretty sure this experiment links conscious states with high level brain energy.
This study does not contradict anything that I have said.
Obviously a brain is needed to allow the consciousness to function in any animal or human life form and the more the brain function well the more the consciousness function well.
The two are very very much connected.
However this connection does not means that the brain can give birth to the consciousness.
Plants do not have a brain but they still have consciousness so consciousness doesn't necessary need a brain to function.
As soon as the consciousness increase in lower form of life such as plants then a brain is needed to allow this low form of consciousness in plants to move on to new goals that is why a brain is needed as plants turn into animals.
Don't you worry too much VL.
Sooner or later you too will understand how the whole system works.
That desirable day you too like everybody else in the past will dump all atheistic dogmas in the rubbish bin of history and real progress will be a reality.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 11:19 am
I think we're watching an animal turn into a plant right before our eyes.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 11:28 am
(April 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 5, 2018 at 10:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: I got a better idea darling.
Instead making the popcorn can you please explain how the consciousness is a product of the brain?
I am not stepping into your giant pile of endless dog shit. You’re an adult. Get yourself a science education if you really can’t fathom an answer to that question. Your willful ignorance is no one’s problem but your own.
Thanks for admitting that you haven't got a clue.
I already knew that you are full of BS.
Spouting dogma after dogma and then dumping the burden of proof on those who ask you an explanation.
Shame woman shame.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 11:44 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2018 at 11:45 am by LadyForCamus.)
(April 5, 2018 at 11:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: (April 5, 2018 at 10:58 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I am not stepping into your giant pile of endless dog shit. You’re an adult. Get yourself a science education if you really can’t fathom an answer to that question. Your willful ignorance is no one’s problem but your own.
Thanks for admitting that you haven't got a clue.
I already knew that you are full of BS.
Spouting dogma after dogma and then dumping the burden of proof on those who ask you an explanation.
Shame woman shame.
Trollolololol
How about this, Ricky. Why don’t you explain to me the mechanisms of consciousness. Don’t forget to back up your hypothesis with sound reasoning and demonstrable evidence. I’ll wait.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 12:44 pm
That’s what I thought, lol.
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RE: Evolution
April 5, 2018 at 1:45 pm
Plants turn into animals? Lol, WTF?
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