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Evolution
RE: Evolution
(April 20, 2018 at 9:45 am)Khemikal Wrote: Diminished intelligence is, then, a consequence of karma. 

True, but I would say...of bad karma because karma can also be good in a way.


Quote:In fact, there is human consciousness in plants..albeit diminished.

If there would be plants would die immediately as human consciousness could not stand the idea to be stuck inside a plant.
Not to know what you were in the previous life is very important regardless you are a plants an animals or a human.
My previous post was a joke but I guess you never thought of it.  Rolleyes

Quote:This means that you are a karmic consciousness cannibal.  It also means that you deserve your diminished intelligence.

Didn't think of that, did you?

Your joke unfortunately is a bit like the sound of a parrot that try to imitate the original sound.
It just fail badly.  Banging Head On Desk
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RE: Evolution
You can't prove that karmic human consciousness isn't in plants. All you have are materialist dogmas about how a human soul couldn't stand a plant body. I don't die just because I'm in a shittier car. Tell me, how can the plant move without a driver?

Fool.
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RE: Evolution
(April 13, 2018 at 10:20 am)Khemikal Wrote: There is no such thing as ego, it's all karma.  I deserve every one of my kudos.

You can't prove I don't.

The ego is indeed not a distinct entity Big Grin

(April 14, 2018 at 10:54 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(April 14, 2018 at 10:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: [...]

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Ahhhhhhhh THAT's what one of the samples in this is from:



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RE: Evolution
(April 20, 2018 at 10:35 am)Khemikal Wrote: You can't prove that karmic human consciousness isn't in plants.

Double Fool

Easy son.
All you have to do to find that out for yourself is to put yourself inside a cage.
How long you reckon you could stand this torture?
To be put inside a plant cage is even worse.
You would kill yourself in no time.
The only way to stand being a plant is not to have the knowledge that you ever be a human being and of course have a very little form of consciousness.
In this way you could stand being a plant.

FAIL AGAIN KHEM.


Quote:All you have are materialist dogmas about how a human soul couldn't stand a plant body.  I don't die just because I'm in a shittier car.

Even inside a shittier car you are still in control but inside a plant you wouldn't.
Plants and animals are directly motivated by instinct or mother nature will.
They have no free will while you inside a shittier car would have.
The more you exist inside a shittier condition the more you suffer that is why plant and animals must have no knowledge of their own situation in which they exist.  Lightbulb


Quote:Tell me, how can the plant move without a driver?

Mother nature instinct son.
Ever heard of it?


Fail on all point mate.  Panic
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RE: Evolution
All you have are dogmas about the inability of a soul to survive this or that physical body, but the soul is independent of physical bodies and so this is irrelevant.  Unless you can prove otherwise you are a fool.  

"Mother nature instinct" is a false materialistic ideology. Unless you can prove that we're just random, mindless natural effects.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evolution
(April 20, 2018 at 11:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: [...]

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"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Evolution
Sure, but consider what we've learned from Little Rik, noted scholar of consciousness and karma.  People don't always get what they deserve, he's got shit for kudos and I have -all- the kudos...and a human consciousness is not capable of persisting outside of a human body. Plants and animals, guided by instinct and nature.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evolution
Do you get karma points for telling other people about karma? That's about the only thing that would justify the acres of pages we get from him that all say the same thing.

It's weird how he seems so concerned with making us aware of karma, presumably for our benefit so we avoid a terrible next life; yet he also treats us as worthless idiots, and acts totally contrary to the dogma he is teaching. What a mess.

Or is he just gloating because he's going to get a better next life than us, in his estimation? That itself is paradoxical since gloating is -500 karma points each time.
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RE: Evolution
(April 21, 2018 at 5:12 am)Khemikal Wrote: All you have are dogmas about the inability of a soul to survive this or that physical body, but the soul is independent of physical bodies and so this is irrelevant.  Unless you can prove otherwise you are a fool.  

"Mother nature instinct" is a false materialistic ideology. Unless you can prove that we're just random, mindless natural effects.


TRIPLE FOOL.

Since when atheists are expert in soul business?  Smile
Are you kidding me?

A soul is not getting here or there by pure chance.
She can only enter the proper body that has a perfect parallelism with her.
Is like a piece of puzzle that can only fit in the right place so there is no question of survival or not.
As far as that body live the soul-consciousness can not be independent.
Humans can end that dependence be committing suicide but plants and animals are unable to do that for absence of free will.

Once again you show your total lack of knowledge on the topic.  Banging Head On Desk

(April 21, 2018 at 7:21 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you get karma points for telling other people about karma? That's about the only thing that would justify the acres of pages we get from him that all say the same thing.

It's weird how he seems so concerned with making us aware of karma, presumably for our benefit so we avoid a terrible next life; yet he also treats us as worthless idiots, and acts totally contrary to the dogma he is teaching. What a mess.

Or is he just gloating because he's going to get a better next life than us, in his estimation? That itself is paradoxical since gloating is -500 karma points each time.


Gee, I would had never thought that gloating is -500 karma point.  Sad

Oh, well since you are an expert in karma points please tell me how many karma point get someone for calling other people mother a whore and how many points get those who engage in blasphemy and how many points get those who kudos those who engage in blasphemy? Thanks
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RE: Evolution
More materialistic dogmas about bodies.   Prove that the soul is dependent on the body.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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