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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:Actually, there is an agenda against ID as exposed in the movie Expelled.

Yes.  It's called scientific fact, you dumb fuck.


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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 25, 2018 at 7:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, it isn;t..and worse, it wouldn;t actually matter if it were.  Do you want to participate or not?  So..you tried... and failed.  Okay, get up off the floor and try again...right?

Computers write code.  Do they possess a mind or intelligence?

They have a pre-programmed intelligence if they write code and they were designed and built by a creator.

Wonderful.  They have intelligence.  So...a mindless intelligence actually can account for "that type of information".

Now, is the reason that they have intelligence that we created them?  Is everything we create a computer, capable of doing what they do?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
The 'That type of information" canard never stops being funny .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 25, 2018 at 8:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 7:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote: They have a pre-programmed intelligence if they write code and they were designed and built by a creator.

Wonderful.  They have intelligence.  So...a mindless intelligence actually can account for "that type of information".

Now, is the reason that they have intelligence that we created them?  Is everything we create a computer, capable of doing what they do?

No, of course not, but we were talking about the computer you brought up.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
So...mindless things can be intelligent..and can account for "that sort of information" enitirely apart from them having been created by us (or by anything).

Isn;t that amazing! Allah ahkbar! Or not?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 26, 2018 at 2:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: So...mindless things can be intelligent..and can account for "that sort of information" enitirely apart from them having been created by us (or by anything).

Isn;t that amazing! Allah ahkbar!  Or not?

Mindless things do not contain specified and complex information.  They contain only Shannon information.

Do you even realize that we have been using Intelligent Design (ID) in a number of fields for a long time.  For instance, SETI has been searching for radio signals are inteligently designed or that are natural.  Below is an article on ID which has been being used in archeology, anthropology, forensics, and SETI:

 http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/i...esign.html
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 26, 2018 at 3:33 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 26, 2018 at 2:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: So...mindless things can be intelligent..and can account for "that sort of information" enitirely apart from them having been created by us (or by anything).

Isn;t that amazing! Allah ahkbar!  Or not?

Mindless things do not contain specified and complex information.  They contain only Shannon information.

Do you even realize that we have been using Intelligent Design (ID) in a number of fields for a long time.  For instance, SETI has been searching for radio signals are inteligently designed or that are natural.  Below is an article on ID which has been being used in archeology, anthropology, forensics, and SETI:

 http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/i...esign.html

-a claim betrayed by the admission that computers produce such information due to their intelligence.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 26, 2018 at 3:37 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 26, 2018 at 3:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: Mindless things do not contain specified and complex information.  They contain only Shannon information.

Do you even realize that we have been using Intelligent Design (ID) in a number of fields for a long time.  For instance, SETI has been searching for radio signals are inteligently designed or that are natural.  Below is an article on ID which has been being used in archeology, anthropology, forensics, and SETI:

 http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/i...esign.html

-a claim betrayed by the admission that computers produce such information.

Computers are designed and built by an intelligence.  A programmer then programs a computer what to do.  It took a number of first causes to get a computer to program.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
It wouldnt actauly matter if that were neccesarrily true, which it is;nt. 

Mindless things can possess intelligence.  Agree or disagree?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 26, 2018 at 3:46 am)Khemikal Wrote: It wouldnt actauly matter if that were neccesarrily true, which it is;nt. 

Mindless things can possess intelligence.  Agree or disagree?

Based on what I have seen in this thread I would have to disagree.

Seriously though, no there are different types of information.  Something that is totally mindless lacks any intelligence.
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