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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 3:48 pm
(June 21, 2018 at 3:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Maybe it was all that "the democrats gave us this law, obama did it, we inherited this problem" messaging? Kindof makes it sound like it;s been happening longer.,.but, nope, it only took 6 weeks for the administration to pull off this little gem and post those beautiful stats.
That's what I was thinking too. The whole "blame the democrats" schtick made its way into a lot of conversations. I'm not surprised people think it was going on for longer than it was. As far as I can tell, neither Obama or Bush (if you want to go that far back) made it a policy to split families up at the border.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 3:52 pm
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Theres no compulsion to do so..it;s not a requirement of law - yet another bit of messaging.
The Deporter in Chief (Obama) did try it, but got stymied by flores..which is exactly whats going to tank this current attempt...and instead either let people loose while they awaited their hearings or..sometimes, put them in ankle jail. Whats frustrating is that there isn;t a single iota of truth about this whole sad affair coming out of the administration.
- not even the "it;s a deterrent" thing that everyone thinks is the quiet part said out loud. They know it;s not a deterrent.
I feel like ranting. Lets consider why this visit by the first lady might be more insulting than consoling.
This administration had precisely two reasons to do what they did.
The first was financial. The people housing trumps stolen children are making a mint..they were some of his biggest campaign backers..and the plan to reimburse them for that support actually -has- been in the works since the moment he took office. This is a matter of public record.
The second was to inflict maximum cruelty in an effort to throw red meat to his base after their consistent failure to achieve their goals and in the face of scandal after scandal and the ongoing investigation of russian fuckery in the 2016 election as they approach the midterms. They needed -something- for the nativists to rally to. I;m tired of pretending that we don;t have a white supremacist in chief, or a white supremacist at the head of the doj, or a white supremacist writing immigration policy.
So yeah, Melon..turn up to your white supremacist husbands business partners kiddie kennel trash palaces. Show us how wonderfully this is all going.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 4:04 pm
Quote:Huh. Not sure why I thought it's been longer.
Because the Orange Fuckhead said so and you believe any shit that comes out of his mouth.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 4:21 pm
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 4:54 pm
(June 21, 2018 at 3:48 pm)Tiberius Wrote: That's what I was thinking too. The whole "blame the democrats" schtick made its way into a lot of conversations. I'm not surprised people think it was going on for longer than it was. As far as I can tell, neither Obama or Bush (if you want to go that far back) made it a policy to split families up at the border.
Well, I'm not blaming the Democrats. My guess is with all the stories of rounding up and deporting illegals over the past year+, I associated that with what is happening now.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 5:05 pm
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I can see that..but..no, it wasn;t the usual cruelty, it was the New Cruelty.
The nutjobs have built up a tolerance to their favorite drug..they need a bigger hit now. Wonder what the next increase will look like.....
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 5:13 pm
(June 21, 2018 at 3:48 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 3:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Maybe it was all that "the democrats gave us this law, obama did it, we inherited this problem" messaging? Kindof makes it sound like it;s been happening longer.,.but, nope, it only took 6 weeks for the administration to pull off this little gem and post those beautiful stats.
That's what I was thinking too. The whole "blame the democrats" schtick made its way into a lot of conversations. I'm not surprised people think it was going on for longer than it was. As far as I can tell, neither Obama or Bush (if you want to go that far back) made it a policy to split families up at the border.
But Obama is black!
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 5:34 pm
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(June 21, 2018 at 4:54 pm)henryp Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 3:48 pm)Tiberius Wrote: That's what I was thinking too. The whole "blame the democrats" schtick made its way into a lot of conversations. I'm not surprised people think it was going on for longer than it was. As far as I can tell, neither Obama or Bush (if you want to go that far back) made it a policy to split families up at the border.
Well, I'm not blaming the Democrats. My guess is with all the stories of rounding up and deporting illegals over the past year+, I associated that with what is happening now.
I didn't think you were. Just reasoning why you (and many people) think it's been going on a long time. The secondary problem of fake news is that even if you don't read it directly, you'll hear it from other sources, some you might think are trustworthy (friends, etc). Social media is a hotbed for spreading misinformation.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 5:35 pm
I always knew I;d pat myself on the back for never joining facebook, lol.
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RE: Melania visits kids taken from their parents?
June 21, 2018 at 5:36 pm
(June 21, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Social media is a hotbed for spreading misinformation.
Especially Facebook.
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