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Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
#91
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 1:21 pm)Divinity Wrote:
(June 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: He's twelve years old, and your defending someone that said he should be put in a cage and raped.  This is some serious delusion that's coming out from people supporting this level of vitriol.

You're defending someone who not just said they'd lock up kids, but ACTUALLY fucking did it.  So get the fuck out of here with this stupid shit, kid.

Last I checked, Barron wasn’t in charge of implementing border policies, so you must be talking about Trump senior.  FN is defending the child.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

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#92
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
I have a pretty rigid moral sense, it;s not difficult for me to classify that kind of statement as bad..but its not entirely unheard of to do some bad thing for the greater good.  In this case..and in context, the bad thing was saying mean words...and the greater good would have been the cessation of kidnappings and the rape of a shadow class with no legal recourse.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#93
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I have a pretty rigid moral sense, it;s not difficult for me to classify that kind of statement as bad..but its not entirely unheard of to do some bad thing for the greater good.  In this case..and in context, the bad thing was saying mean words...and the greater good would have been the cessation of kidnappings and the rape of a shadow class with no legal recourse.

And do you think that Fonda’s lunatic Twitter comment was the miracle cure to the problem of mass kidnappings at the border?  Or do you think he made a vile and embarrassing caricature of the left that did nothing but generate more name calling and attention seeking at the expense of a twelve year old boy? Do honestly think Trump and Melania read that tweet and thought, “he has a point.”
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#94
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
The right will make that  caricature  no matter what anyone else who allows it to stick is already to far gone for it to have much impact least of all the Trumps .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#95
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 2:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: And do you think that Fonda’s lunatic Twitter comment was the miracle cure to the problem of mass kidnappings at the border?  Or do you think he made a vile and embarrassing caricature of the left that did nothing but generate more name calling and attention seeking at the expense of a twelve year old boy?  Do honestly think Trump and Melania read that tweet and thought, “he has a point.”
Again, trump is massively self absorbed..so if anything was going to strike a chord with him it would be somethiong about his things..like his kids. Though personally I;d have aimed at his wallet. Howsabout I kidnap his bank account and rub my grundle all over it, lol?

Granted, he may actually be completely oblivious..nevertheless..and despite what he said about why he signed his eo....because of course he;s just hoping to shuffle them off to an internment camp together...but......some people might actually think that he does have a point.  Some people who may not have really given it much thought uintil they imagined that their own children would be or could be or should be kidnapped and raped...if this can be done to someone elses.

Basic reciprocity.  It;s not always nice..but it;s incredibly compelling to human beings.

-and yes, I do think that there are points in which holding up that ugly mirror and responding to brutality with brutality are effective..even if they aren;t fair in some novel sense, or high road adjacent in any sense.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#96
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
I'm surprised anyone's really like, "Well, it's not that bad because he's dad's a dick." Really, no one should even be talking about this underage child. He has nothing fucking at all to do with what's happening and should be left completely out of it. Light-hearted jokes about the kid, such as when he wore the "Expert" T-shirt while standing next to his Dad fly under my radar because who has time to care, but this kind of shit shouldn't be defensible. This isn't the kind of comment you make in public, and you should never be so married to "your side" that you shrug this shit off because someone on your side said it.
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#97
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 11:34 am)Divinity Wrote: Oh no, Peter Fonda said he hopes something nasty happens to Barron Trump.  How awful.  The Billionaire's son who has a secret service detail no doubt has it harder than the children who've been separated from their families and locked in cages.  

Oh, the edginess. You don't know this kid or his life. For all you know, he's already been a victim. It's common enough. No one said he has it harder. It's just fucking dickish to say he should be locked in a cage with pedophiles. Fucking whatboutism. Who cares? Do you look at kids in wheelchairs and say "Boofuckingwho. Little Timmy has cancer. Did you think of that, you spoiled shit?" This kid was targeted by an adult who suggested he should get raped.

Quote:Give me a fucking break.  Yeah, he should have left out the 'pedophile' part, but other than that there's zero wrong with his statement.  Anyone who thinks otherwise can go fuck a kite.  No, you didn't mishear me.  I said go fuck a kite, not fly one.

Oh, good. You followed up your who cares with "Well, he should have said pedophile, but still." Go fuck a kite? No one thinks they misheard you. You just sound retarded.
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#98
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
Pretty sure it was his dad that was targeted..on the potentially shaky theory that his dad might give a shit.
(pro-tip pete, he doesn;t, except insomuch as he might see such a thing as diminishing his own status, somehow)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#99
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 21, 2018 at 11:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Poor snowflake conservitards thought that they were the only ones who;d bred stormtrooopers.  They were wrong.  That;s always the trouble with imagining that the other guy is a sniveling whining pansy.  Some of us are just biding our time..fitting in.  I'm not interested in moral highground.  Any piece of it I hold is by default and not through any work of mine.  I wait to count coup.  No shits are going to be given by me when these assholes reach the end of their 15 minutes.

Are you suggesting that keyboard warriors who tweet disgusting things about children are "stormtroopers?" In this case, the other guy is a sniveling, whining pansy. Are you stormtroopers about to bust out and fill up the interwebs with mean comments about Trump's family. O-ho. Lookout world! Tongue
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
There is a huge difference between a hypothetical to make a point, and what Fonda said.

Saying something like "how would Trump feel if Barron was ripped from his mother's arms and thrown in a cage?" is a hypothetical to make a comparison with a real situation and try and enact some empathy from Trump and his followers.

What Fonda said was a borderline threat against the son of the President. In fact I'd call it an actual threat but with no real seriousness behind it.
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