And FYI were still not claiming theists are wrong .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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And FYI were still not claiming theists are wrong .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb (June 28, 2018 at 6:17 pm)Kit Wrote:Yeah but are claiming it positively or are you claiming the theists simply have not put forth a case that works . (wihich not the same as saying they are wrong )(June 28, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: And FYI were still not claiming theists are wrong .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb (June 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:(June 28, 2018 at 6:17 pm)Kit Wrote: Well, I am. ;)Yeah but are claiming it positively or are you claiming the theists simply have not put forth a case that works . (wihich not the same as saying they are wrong ) I claim it positively, which I have no problem doing as an anti-theist. My arguments support my positive claim when I go that route, though. RE: Atheism
June 28, 2018 at 6:25 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2018 at 6:26 pm by Amarok.)
(June 28, 2018 at 6:20 pm)Kit Wrote:(June 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Yeah but are claiming it positively or are you claiming the theists simply have not put forth a case that works . (wihich not the same as saying they are wrong ) Okay just wanted to know (June 28, 2018 at 6:20 pm)Kit Wrote:But i will point out as Anti Theist your position need not be epistemic. But as long as your good with it .(June 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Yeah but are claiming it positively or are you claiming the theists simply have not put forth a case that works . (wihich not the same as saying they are wrong )
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb RE: Atheism
June 28, 2018 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2018 at 9:06 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(June 27, 2018 at 11:06 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(June 27, 2018 at 10:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It does. But my standard of evidence for supernatural claims like the ones in the Bible are much higher than for a claim that a powerful, rich, male celebrity took advantage of vulnerable women. For one, I know Bill Cosby exists... Not ignoring this, RR. Just working on a thoughtful response, because they’re good questions.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. Quote:So what evidence would be sufficient to learn that something exists? Do you think that bias effects your standards of evidence? There is no epistemological foundation for a shifting standard of evidence. Which is why I asked if evidence matters. What type of evidence would it take?1. Not my problem 2.No 3.Yes there it's all in pattern of shift and to what . 4.Of course it matters 5.Not my problem
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb (June 28, 2018 at 9:04 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(June 27, 2018 at 11:06 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So what evidence would be sufficient to learn that something exists? Do you think that bias effects your standards of evidence? There is no epistemological foundation for a shifting standard of evidence. Which is why I asked if evidence matters. What type of evidence would it take? No problem, I always appreciate a mindful response.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther RE: Atheism
June 29, 2018 at 5:18 am
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2018 at 5:21 am by robvalue.)
I claim religious theists are wrong about specific cartoon character “gods” being real. I estimate the probability of that as negligible.
I don’t claim they are wrong about there being some sort of intelligent creator (of our “universe”, not designing us specifically). I have no opinion either way on that. By create, I mean nothing more (necessarily) than setting the initial conditions. Feel free to send me a private message.
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