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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 7:10 am
(August 9, 2018 at 11:46 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Time is relative, if you lived on another planet you'd measure a day differently. Likewise God measures time differently than we do, and the bible is clear about this. No the babble is not clear at all.
Quote:For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. - Psalms 90:4
How amusing. You loudly complain about everyone taking bible verses out of context but then you foist bible verses out of context as some sort of evidence.
Quote:But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. - 2 Peter 3:8
And you go on to cite another "out of context" verse from a fake epistle. Bravo.
(August 9, 2018 at 11:46 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Barring all that, the Bible starts with
Quote:In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - Genesis 1:1
God created the universe and the Earth FULL-STOP!
It does not say how long it took to make the earth.
Also we don't know how much time has elapsed between the creation of the earth and the first day. Wow, that is some industrial grade apologia right there. Scientifically, we do know all of those time periods. It turns out your god apparently does not.
"God created the universe and the Earth FULL-STOP! " Give me a break. If everyone believed that we would all be living in caves, yet here we are conversing on the internet. How about your god explains that in the holey babble? No?
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 7:21 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2018 at 9:03 am by Huggy Bear.)
(August 11, 2018 at 1:52 am)Minimalist Wrote: BTW, the Tower of Babel bullshit story is another one stolen from the Sumerians....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmerkar_a..._of_Aratta
Quote:Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta is a legendary Sumerian account, of preserved, early post-Sumerian copies, composed in the Neo-Sumerian period (ca. 21st century BC). It is one of a series of accounts describing the conflicts between Enmerkar, king of Unug-Kulaba (Uruk), and the unnamed king of Aratta (probably somewhere in modern Iran or Armenia).
Because it gives a Sumerian account of the "confusion of tongues", and also involves Enmerkar constructing temples at Eridu and Uruk, it has, since the time of Samuel Kramer,[1] been compared with the Tower of Babel narrative in the Book of Genesis.
The 21st century BC being some 1600 years before there was any group recognizable as "jews" and 18-1900 years before anyone ( mainly some Greek ) bothered to write their silly shit down.
Oh well, I'm sure Huggy or one of the other assholes will be along to tell us all about their fucking bible now!
You do realize Babel along with Sumer are Mesopotamian cities don't you? Mesopotamia is where the biblical story took place.
What you've found is a corroborating source, good job.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:21 am
Well, Hugs, that would be backwards. The Bible account supports/invokes/recapitulates the existing Sumerian version, not vice versa.
Additionally, the Bible version itself is contradicted elsewhere in the Bible.
Genesis 10 (KJV)
5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
Best if you move on to a different topic . . . .
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:33 am
In what way is that a contradiction?
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:36 am
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:45 am
Genesis 11 (KJV)
11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
One (1) does not equal 'many'.
If I offered you a choice of one chocolate bar, or many chocolate bars, would you be able to discern the difference between the two choices ??
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:49 am
(August 11, 2018 at 10:45 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Genesis 11 (KJV)
11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
One (1) does not equal 'many'.
If I offered you a choice of one chocolate bar, or many chocolate bars, would you be able to discern the difference between the two choices ??
God clearly did his vindictive, childish thing by making certain people couldn't communicate with one another.
Or, the more logical explanation: a biblical author was racist against someone who spoke a different language and wrote a vindictive, childish story.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:53 am
Actually, I think the author had a beef with the people of the world being united and working toward a common goal. Knocking over the tower was one of God's more dickish moves.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 10:55 am
(August 11, 2018 at 10:53 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Actually, I think the author had a beef with the people of the world being united and working toward a common goal. Knocking over the tower was one of God's more dickish moves.
His moves do seem more dickish, as though they're derived from human emotion rather than anything remotely divine, and that flood was a prime example.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
August 11, 2018 at 12:53 pm
I think someone has been watching too much Stargate !!!
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