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Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
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#31
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am
Theists are right. Universe can't come from nothing.
Atheists are right. God can't come from nothing.
Since there is no other options Universe can't exist.
But it exists therefore logic is delusion.
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#32
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 9:55 am
(October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Theists are right. Universe can't come from nothing.
Atheists are right. God can't come from nothing.
Since there is no other options Universe can't exist.
But it exists therefore logic is delusion.

Theists are right: universe can't come from nothing.
Atheists are right: god can't come from nothing.
Therefore, learn how the natural world works and discover, through scientific inquiry, how the universe came to be without filling in the gaps of knowledge with ignorant and delusional god did it.
Logic is back on track.
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RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 10:23 am (This post was last modified: October 12, 2018 at 10:24 am by Fake Messiah.)
MysticKnight Wrote:There is plenty of reminders and proofs of God in his holy books

Really? I must admit I never noticed proofs God or anything credible in Bible amidst all those talking animals, woman turning into a salt, man riding on a tornado into heaven, man living in a fish for 3 days, zombies wandering in Jerusalem, disembodied hand writing on the wall, blowing horn making walls collapse.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#34
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:08 am (This post was last modified: October 12, 2018 at 11:08 am by Mystic.)
That fault is yours, Torah, Psalms, Gospels, Quran, are filled with proofs of God.
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#35
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:09 am
(October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Theists are right. Universe can't come from nothing.
Strawman. False.
(October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Atheists are right. God can't come from nothing.
Not an atheist claim. False.
(October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Since there is no other options Universe can't exist.
Argument from ignorance. False.
(October 12, 2018 at 9:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: But it exists therefore logic is delusion.
Logic refutes your baseless claims so once again false.

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#36
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:12 am
(October 12, 2018 at 11:08 am)MysticKnight Wrote: That fault is yours, Torah, Psalms, Gospels, Quran, are filled with proofs of God.

Incorrect.
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RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:18 am
Quote:Not an atheist claim. False.
Why do atheists always ask where god comes from?
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#38
RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:23 am
Because it reveals the hypocrisy in demanding the universe must have come from somewhere, but god did not. If things can "just be", then the universe can be one of those things, potentially. God is an unnecessary assumption, and dismissing the very assumption used to define him into existence is disingenuous.
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RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:30 am
(October 12, 2018 at 11:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Because it reveals the hypocrisy in demanding the universe must have come from somewhere, but god did not. If things can "just be", then the universe can be one of those things, potentially. God is an unnecessary assumption, and dismissing the very assumption used to define him into existence is disingenuous.

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RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 11:31 am
(October 12, 2018 at 11:30 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 12, 2018 at 11:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Because it reveals the hypocrisy in demanding the universe must have come from somewhere, but god did not. If things can "just be", then the universe can be one of those things, potentially. God is an unnecessary assumption, and dismissing the very assumption used to define him into existence is disingenuous.

I don't agree with you always, but you are right about this.

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