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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:14 am
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(November 25, 2018 at 1:04 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Everena Wrote: Response to what?
You've given the opinion/are happy with the idea that your Overmind can do litteraly anything it wishes. It can create something even it can't move/eat/whatever.
Your Overmind can 'Not care' about the definite speed of light that would seem to exist in our reality. Hence, it can interact with everything every where when ever and how ever it wishes. With no limits.
I'm okay with this.
Now, what other properties do you believe your Overmind has?
Not at work. It is not an Overmind whatever that is. Why do you have a problem with the word God? Does it scare you or something? Anyway, God is a massive energy that exists in the unobservable universe. Not sure why you would think it can;t move or eat. It moves, it eats, it communicates. It is all powerful and all knowing.
(November 25, 2018 at 1:12 am)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 12:55 am)Everena Wrote: The Journal wasn't dedicated to consciousness studies though. I just looked at it and it's all about learning and communication and memory and attention. I don't see one thing about consciousness.
Keep singing that song. You username is a portmanteau of Eveready Bunny and Macarena isn't it?
I used to do the Macarena way back in the day. How about something newer though? This one is great for atheist dudes. Men sending a message to other men.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:25 am
Look to the Ichneumenoid wasp, laying eggs in a paralyzed host so that its larvae might eat it alive.
Look to the nematode Onchocerca volvulus that devours human eyes from the inside out.
Look to the child that dies every 3 seconds of preventable illness.
If you believe that this was a deity's handiwork then logically it must be a malevolent one. A god that was merely uncaring wouldn't have burdened you with sentience so that you could fully appreciate this litany of horrors.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:28 am
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You guys are trying to persuade a clot of dirt with facts and reason.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:31 am
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:35 am
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(November 25, 2018 at 1:31 am)Paleophyte Wrote:
Every moment I spend imagining everena can be helped is an act of theft on my part from another who actually could be helped.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:37 am
(November 25, 2018 at 1:14 am)Everena Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:04 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: You've given the opinion/are happy with the idea that your Overmind can do litteraly anything it wishes. It can create something even it can't move/eat/whatever.
Your Overmind can 'Not care' about the definite speed of light that would seem to exist in our reality. Hence, it can interact with everything every where when ever and how ever it wishes. With no limits.
I'm okay with this.
Now, what other properties do you believe your Overmind has? It is not an Overmind whatever that is. Why do you have a problem with the word God? Does it scare you or something? Anyway, God is a massive energy that exists in the unobservable universe. Not sure why you would think it can;t move or eat. It moves, it eats, it communicates. It is all powerful and all knowing.
"Overmind" is what I'm using as a place holder for your thing untill such time that your ideas match anything else.
So;
Your Overmind is 'An energy'.
It exists in an unobservable 'Universe'.
It can ignore any/the limits of our reality at its whim.
It moves.
It consumes.
It is 'All powerful'.
It is 'All knowing'.
Lots of things to discuss there.
So, if this other reality/univers is 'Unobservable'... HWO might you know/inffer it exists?
If your Overmind has to consume... does it have to expell?
Is your Overmind limitless in its unobservable reality as well as being limitless in our reality?
Where does it move? How does it move? Why should it need to move?
Cheers.
Not at work.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:38 am
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(November 25, 2018 at 1:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: You guys are trying to persuade a clot of dirt with facts and reason.
Play nice little Ediacaran. We're all just evolved clots of dirt and you're about 600 Million years closer to the mudpile than us jumped-up monkeyspawn.
880 pages! We should be proud. Soon it'll hit 1000 and we can merge it with Leo's "Last Person to Post Wins" thread. I vote to rename it "Everybody who posts loses!"
(November 25, 2018 at 1:35 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:31 am)Paleophyte Wrote:
Every moment I spend imagining everena can be helped is an act of theft on my part from another whom I could actually help.
That was in reply to Everena's "Diary of Jane" video.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:42 am
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(November 25, 2018 at 1:25 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Look to the Ichneumenoid wasp, laying eggs in a paralyzed host so that its larvae might eat it alive.
Look to the nematode Onchocerca volvulus that devours human eyes from the inside out.
Look to the child that dies every 3 seconds of preventable illness.
If you believe that this was a deity's handiwork then logically it must be a malevolent one. A god that was merely uncaring wouldn't have burdened you with sentience so that you could fully appreciate this litany of horrors.
I said this before, but I don't think you were here then.
I believe we are supposed to observe our environment, All around us people are doing kind and wonderful things. All around us people are joyous and celebrating. All around us people are doing horrible and terrifying things. All around us people are suffering and in pain.
There seems to be a cycle we are in here....
Catholic priests, nuns and monks take a lifetime vow of celibacy after claiming to hear a "calling"
They also preach against masturbation,
We spay and neuter animals and put animals in cages.
Anyway. I believe in karma and reincarnation and the concept of karma exists in every religion: It's in the bible numerous times including an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, live by the sword, die by the sword, you reap what you sow, Everyone will be salted with fire, Consider carefully what you hear, with the measure you use, it will be measured to you and even more. Etc Etc
Christian website discussing karma in the Bible:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
Muslim website discussing karma in Quran:
https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html
I do not think anyone will ever suffer any pain that they did not intentionally cause to someone else. I also believe hell is happening right here, right before our very eyes.
(November 25, 2018 at 1:38 am)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: You guys are trying to persuade a clot of dirt with facts and reason.
Play nice little Ediacaran. We're all just evolved clots of dirt and you're about 600 Million years closer to the mudpile than us jumped-up monkeyspawn.
880 pages! We should be proud. Soon it'll hit 1000 and we can merge it with Leo's "Last Person to Post Wins" thread. I vote to rename it "Everybody who posts loses!"
(November 25, 2018 at 1:35 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Every moment I spend imagining everena can be helped is an act of theft on my part from another whom I could actually help.
That was in reply to Everena's "Diary of Jane" video.
So you did not understand the message of the song. Too bad then. Imagine there is a heaven. It's easy if you try.
I counter that John Lennon with with the fabulous Mr Elton John
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 1:53 am
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2018 at 2:37 am by Anomalocaris.)
(November 25, 2018 at 1:38 am)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: You guys are trying to persuade a clot of dirt with facts and reason.
Play nice little Ediacaran. We're all just evolved clots of dirt and you're about 600 Million years closer to the mudpile than us jumped-up monkeyspawn.
Little do you know ediacaran fauna consisted wholly of sessile, highly intelligent organisms that devoted all their vast intellect over 50 million years entirely to contemplating the deepest secrets of the universe, and as a result of their prodigious feats of intellect transcended time and space and ascended to a higher plane 542 million years ago, leaving inferior lineages such as yours to claw out nasty, brutal and short existences on the savage little ball to the end of life’s time on earth.
(November 25, 2018 at 1:42 am)Everena Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:25 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Look to the Ichneumenoid wasp, laying eggs in a paralyzed host so that its larvae might eat it alive.
Look to the nematode Onchocerca volvulus that devours human eyes from the inside out.
Look to the child that dies every 3 seconds of preventable illness.
If you believe that this was a deity's handiwork then logically it must be a malevolent one. A god that was merely uncaring wouldn't have burdened you with sentience so that you could fully appreciate this litany of horrors.
I said this before, but I don't think you were here then.
I believe we are supposed to observe our environment, All around us people are doing kind and wonderful things. All around us people are joyous and celebrating. All around us people are doing horrible and terrifying things. All around us people are suffering and in pain.
There seems to be a cycle we are in here....
Catholic priests, nuns and monks take a lifetime vow of celibacy after claiming to hear a "calling"
They also preach against masturbation,
We spay and neuter animals and put animals in cages.
Anyway. I believe in karma and reincarnation and the concept of karma exists in every religion: The bible numerous times including an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, live by the sword, die by the sword, you reap what you sow, Everyone will be salted with fire, Consider carefully what you hear, with the measure you use, it will be measured to you and even more. Etc Etc
Christian website discussing karma in the Bible:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
Muslim website discussing karma in Quran:
https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html
I do not think anyone will ever suffer any pain that they did not intentionally cause to someone else. I also believe hell is happening right here, right before our very eyes.
(November 25, 2018 at 1:38 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Play nice little Ediacaran. We're all just evolved clots of dirt and you're about 600 Million years closer to the mudpile than us jumped-up monkeyspawn.
880 pages! We should be proud. Soon it'll hit 1000 and we can merge it with Leo's "Last Person to Post Wins" thread. I vote to rename it "Everybody who posts loses!"
That was in reply to Everena's "Diary of Jane" video.
So you did not understand the message of the song. Too bad then. Imagine there is a heaven. It's easy if you try.
I counter that John Lennon with with the fabulous Mr Elton John
If you just Imagine, any bullshit would easily seem like it is not bullshit.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 25, 2018 at 2:10 am
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(November 25, 2018 at 1:37 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (November 25, 2018 at 1:14 am)Everena Wrote: It is not an Overmind whatever that is. Why do you have a problem with the word God? Does it scare you or something? Anyway, God is a massive energy that exists in the unobservable universe. Not sure why you would think it can;t move or eat. It moves, it eats, it communicates. It is all powerful and all knowing.
"Overmind" is what I'm using as a place holder for your thing untill such time that your ideas match anything else.
So;
Your Overmind is 'An energy'.
Everena: Yes, a form of energy we are unaware of here that feels more like matter. It's bigger than this entire planet.
It exists in an unobservable 'Universe'.
Everena: Yes, or what scientists refer to as the hidden universe or hidden universes.
It can ignore any/the limits of our reality at its whim.
Everena: It is the creator of everything here that has taken humans hundreds of thousands of years to even sort of understand using very complicated mathematical formulas that the very brightest minds among us have worked tirelessly on. And we are still only really guessing. But yes, God can do anything.
It moves.
It consumes.
It is 'All powerful'.
It is 'All knowing'.
Lots of things to discuss there.
So, if this other reality/univers is 'Unobservable'... HWO might you know/inffer it exists?
Everena: Here are some reasons that so many scientists think so
https://www.space.com/18811-multiple-uni...ories.html
If your Overmind has to consume... does it have to expell?
Everena: No, it is energy and burns what it consumes, as do our higher selves. And you spelled expel wrong.
Is your Overmind limitless in its unobservable reality as well as being limitless in our reality?
Everena: God is not limited by anything, as we have discussed.
Where does it move? How does it move? Why should it need to move?
Everena: Anyway it wants to.
Cheers.
Everena: Drinking again?
Not at work.
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