6 and a half minutes of "terror"...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Science Channel was about five minutes behind the Nasa website.

[Brian37]

Science Channel was about five minutes behind the Nasa website.

FUCK! 

They cut into a "How the Universe Works". I was assuming the break in was a live feed. DAMN IT!

Well regardless, orange turd denies climate change, scientist get us to mars once again.

[zebo-the-fat]

Success!
Well done to everyone involved, a text book landing

[Brian37]

I really hate the bullshit that every "hero" is always about sweat. Evolution isn't about all brawn. The thinkers, can be those whom use their intellect for ill as well. If our species never questioned anything we'd still be using the pony express.

Again, understanding the universe also helps us understand our planet, and our own existence.

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And my mother who was a lifetime teacher also worked in a climate controlled setting.

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If it were not for engineers and scientists
the Apollo 13 3 would not have made it home.

Heroism is about sacrifice and selflessness, not sweat. And I’m not denigrating people who work  in the space industry - it’s valuable work and I’m glad we have people clever enough to do it.  

But you still haven’t answered my question. What is it about this job that makes the people who do it ‘heroes’ - not clever, not dedicated, not important (I don’t disagree with you about any of that), but ‘heroes’?

Boru

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And the problem with "sacrificing" your life for others, is that you can also do that and be DEAD WRONG about the position you are defending.

I am sure the 9/11 hijackers thought of themselves as heros. Again, simply dying to save others is only one aspect of evolution. 

I can tell you my mom, whom never served combat, never shed her blood was still a hero, not only to me, but thousands of others whom without, would not be educated adults. I would not doubt that a few of them are now scientists.

If our goal as a species is to leave the planet less violent the prior generations, then a "hero" isn't one who tries to get to the moon or mars out of self glorification anymore than the soldiers of D-Day fought Nazis just so it could be harder on a future generation.

Risk is one aspect of evolution. But those risk takers stand on far more shoulders to get to that ability to make that risk. 

Humans are not curious or risk takers to make life more difficult. Heros are also those whom support heros. For every doctor whom saves a life, their are hundreds of teachers that got them through medical school. For every D-Day Soldier that fought the Nazis there were even more at home thinking of, and inventing the technology they used to do so.

You are trying to make this an either or thing and I am not. I am not a risk taker.

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Boru, I am a fucking wimp. Ok, I will admit that.

But even with me, it took me EVERYTHING to overcome my fear of flying to get to my friend in Australia. I could not be a fireman, or a police man or a D-Day soldier. But I do know countless people thought up the 747 I flew on, and countless people trained the pilots who flew me there, and countless computer programmers and meteorologists collaborated to make that passage safe for even a wimp like me, on the same plane as the pilot.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As beside the point as your post was, that was delightful to read.  Gripping, in fact. But...

What.Makes.Aerospace.Workers.Heroes.?

If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine, I'll stop asking it.  But if you bother to reply at all, please stay on point and answer my question.

Boru

[The Valkyrie]

The only true heroes are surgeons.

Especially female cardiologists.

[Brian37]

As beside the point as your post was, that was delightful to read.  Gripping, in fact. But...

What.Makes.Aerospace.Workers.Heroes.?

If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine, I'll stop asking it.  But if you bother to reply at all, please stay on point and answer my question.

Boru

If you define a "hero" as only bloodshed and death, then that is only one aspect of our species. A hero to me can also be someone who makes your life easier. 

The first World War was called "The War To End All Wars". So is our species goal always to seek more violence or less? Is our goal to seek more illness or less? Is our goal to always sweat? Or can it be a collective effort to avoid more harm? Physical protection is part of our species, but thinking of ways to do that and to make life less stressful on future species requires brains more than physical force.

My mom was a hero. Not only to me, but thousands.

[Minimalist]

Like I said, the word has lost all meaning.


But hats off to NASA for getting the job done.

[Brian37]

Like I said, the word has lost all meaning.


But hats off to NASA for getting the job done.

The first person who convinces the world that violence is selfish, and bloodshed does not produce eternity, will win the universe. I suspect our species will do what it has always done unfortunately.

In the meanwhile, I hope NASA's efforts will take some attention away from our species bullshit tribalism.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As beside the point as your post was, that was delightful to read.  Gripping, in fact. But...

What.Makes.Aerospace.Workers.Heroes.?

If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine, I'll stop asking it.  But if you bother to reply at all, please stay on point and answer my question.

Boru

If you define a "hero" as only bloodshed and death, then that is only one aspect of our species. A hero to me can also be someone who makes your life easier. 

The first World War was called "The War To End All Wars". So is our species goal always to seek more violence or less? Is our goal to seek more illness or less? Is our goal to always sweat? Or can it be a collective effort to avoid more harm? Physical protection is part of our species, but thinking of ways to do that and to make life less stressful on future species requires brains more than physical force.

My mom was a hero. Not only to me, but thousands.

So much for staying on point.  *sigh*

And, to edify you just a tad, WWI was called 'The First World War' before it was called 'The War To End All Wars'.  (If you aren't going to stick to the topic, I don't see why I should).

Boru