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Is atheism a belief?
#21
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 9, 2018 at 12:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 12:36 pm)unfogged Wrote: It is a-theism, not athe-ism.  


When the bigfootists organize on a large scale and start using that to pass laws based on their unsubstantiated claims and telling me that I can't be a decent person or that I deserve to be killed and tortured forever for my lack of belief then I will be happy to join an abigfootist forum.  I identify as an atheist only in response to the problem that is theism.  Bigfootism isn't a problem.

Last I looked, America had something called the 1st amendment which states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

That has nothing to do with what I said. It's notable that you have no actual response and just tried to change the subject.

Quote:That being said, why do Atheists never have a problem with countries like Denmark who actually have a state sanctioned religion?

Why do you assume atheists (not capitalized by the way) don't have a problem with it? I do, although I'd take the mainly ceremonial forms of religion over the pernicious form I have to deal with in the US.
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#22
RE: Is atheism a belief?
Oh goody. Smuggy is back.
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#23
RE: Is atheism a belief?
It is a belief in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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#24
RE: Is atheism a belief?
Hi - new here too and looking for some fellow heathens to hang out with.

While the consensus of posts above is of course absolutely right in that atheism is a lack of belief in something for which there is no evidence, I think one could argue that it is a 'position'. Given that the universe and the nature of reality is probably far stranger than our African plains evolved senses and intellect can comprehend one could speculate that the jury is out until we know a bit more about how this thing we all inhabit actually works. Of course, that does not mean one should accept unsupportable claims without any evidence, but it just might mean having an open mind until the jury comes back into the room - and I speak as a 98% atheist of a coup[le of decades standing.

Hi again - and waiting to be shot down in flames.
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#25
RE: Is atheism a belief?
No, it isn't. Next discussion. Deadpan
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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#26
RE: Is atheism a belief?
I don't believe it is.
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#27
RE: Is atheism a belief?
That is the mentality of the Christians: they accuse everybody that they are following a religion - wrong religion that is (devil). It starts back with Paul who said "their god is the belly" in Philippians 3:18. And ever since then they have been accusing everybody of having a religion like let's say an astronomy club: "you know they get together and talk about something it must be a religion", so they were burning people for that. So no wonder Christiand accuse people with no belief in supernatural of being religious.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#28
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Please describe the belief all atheists have in common.
Please sum up the atheist *ideology* all atheists have in common.
What doctrine do all atheists have in common?
What theory do all atheists have in common?
What system do all atheists in common?

Let me rephrase your questions, and maybe you'll see how they fail...

Please describe the belief all theists have in common.
Belief in a supreme being or deity.
And let me tell you what you are gonna do next: you are desperately going to look for a counterexample, a dishonest one if necessary, then you are going to repost, ignoring the rest, particularly my challenge to tell the specifics you claimed beforehand about atheism.

(December 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Please sum up the theist *ideology* all theists have in common.
What doctrine do all theists have in common?
What theory do all theists have in common?
What system do all theists in common?

You tell me, i am no teist and i havent defined others´peoples beliefs with specifics. Isnt it pretty disingenuous to ask somebody else to make your own stpuid argument for you?

Now back to my original question. Why arent you simply answering it? I didnt claim atheism was a thing, you did, and you gave some pretty specific criteria. How comes you cant coment on the criteria you gave yourselves for other peoples´beliefs, not even a single one?

Why is arguing in good faith such a big issue for you? Is it because you are a troll?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#29
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 9, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Mentium Wrote: Hi - new here too and looking for some fellow heathens to hang out with.

While the consensus of posts above is of course absolutely right in that atheism is a lack of belief in something for which there is no evidence, I think one could argue that it is a 'position'. Given that the universe and the nature of reality is probably far stranger than our African plains evolved senses and intellect can comprehend one could speculate that the jury is out until we know a bit more about how this thing we all inhabit actually works. Of course, that does not mean one should accept unsupportable claims without any evidence, but it just might mean having an open mind until the jury comes back into the room - and I speak as a 98% atheist of a coup[le of decades standing.

Hi again - and waiting to be shot down in flames.

Hello.

I admire your restraint. 

As far as I'm concerned that jury has been back for around 45 years.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#30
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 9, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Mentium Wrote: Hi again - and waiting to be shot down in flames.

Here is an experienced advice: wrap yourself in tin foil.
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