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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 10:37 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Bahai may or may not be nonsense. But I am reluctant to dismiss it out of hand.
Why?
It is an improvement upon nonsense. And an improvement upon nonsense makes sense. After all, that is all that science and philosophy are (when you really stand back and look at them.)
It's not, go spend twenty minutes at a bahai forum. Those guys are nuts, even more nuts than your run of the mill religious nuts. That's what happens when you get too deep into syncretism, though, you end up with a schizophrenic religion.
The bahai faith is islam's version of scientology.
Wow.
You were SO right about this. I take back my earlier (and uninformed) comment about Bahai being an improvement upon nonsense. It's taking all the nonsense together and heaping more nonsense on top of it. That's hardly an improvement.
I'm kinda pissed that Baha'i is even mentioned in wikipedia's article on religious pluralism. Baha'i is NOT pluralism. It's a bastardization of world religions with some extra dogma added for good measure. That's not exactly pluralism.
I am a fan, however, of the philosopher John Hick and his ideas. That is why I formerly thought Baha'i might be "an improvement upon nonsense."
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 15, 2018 at 10:15 pm
(December 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The creation myths of the pagan religions are absolutely crazy like a cartoon or a comic book.
What?! You believe in a book featuring magic, people rising from the dead and talking animals....and you think the scriptures of OTHER religions are crazy? 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 15, 2018 at 10:21 pm
Which had nothing to do with establishing a religion but the freedom to not be persecuted and you didn't address his point in least
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 15, 2018 at 11:42 pm
(December 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I'm kinda pissed that Baha'i is even mentioned in wikipedia's article on religious pluralism. Baha'i is NOT pluralism. It's a bastardization of world religions with some extra dogma added for good measure. That's not exactly pluralism.
They have good marketing. Two guesses as to the religious persuasion of the person who edited wiki on that count, lol. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm
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(December 14, 2018 at 7:10 pm)Amarok Wrote: (December 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Wow, that's impressive. I have read it a number of times as well. Scholars are shocked at the accuracy of the kingdoms predicted by Daniel with the statue prophecy.
The creation myths of the pagan religions are absolutely crazy like a cartoon or a comic book.
I can link you some sources if you are interested in reading about the Catholic church in Bible prophecy.
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(December 14, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (December 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The creation myths of the pagan religions are absolutely crazy like a cartoon or a comic book. More or less crazy than a weeklong sprinter god who breathes life into a golem in a garden before a dragon talks him into eating a magical fruit, leading to a dirt curse? I think that you fail to see how crazy your own myths are for no reason other than familiarity. It's like your batshit uncle..you know how you have to keep reassuring people who've never met him that he's really aight, deep down?
Quote:I can link you some sources if you are interested in reading about the Catholic church in Bible prophecy.
Why on earth would I be interested in what fundy loons think about the church of cathol? The fact that you imagine magic book to be a crystal ball is far more interesting to me. Strange, how it can't get the past right and yet simultaneously can tell the future......
It's only about 10 percent or less super natural. The past and future are correct in the Book.
(December 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: (December 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Wow, that's impressive. I have read it a number of times as well. Scholars are shocked at the accuracy of the kingdoms predicted by Daniel with the statue prophecy.
Still waiting for you to list some of those alleged prophecies with historical citations that they actually happened. 
The Book of Daniel. Lets discuss it. I know a lot about the book if you want to discuss. You said you read it so what questions do you have about the predicted kingdoms with the statue or the beasts. The prediction of Messiah who would be cut off,....
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The Book of Daniel. Lets discuss it. I know a lot about the book if you want to discuss. You said you read it so what questions do you have about the predicted kingdoms with the statue or the beasts. The prediction of Messiah who would be cut off,....
You might want to start a separate thread for that if you are committed to a substantial discussion of it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 12:58 pm
(December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(December 14, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: More or less crazy than a weeklong sprinter god who breathes life into a golem in a garden before a dragon talks him into eating a magical fruit, leading to a dirt curse? I think that you fail to see how crazy your own myths are for no reason other than familiarity. It's like your batshit uncle..you know how you have to keep reassuring people who've never met him that he's really aight, deep down?
Why on earth would I be interested in what fundy loons think about the church of cathol? The fact that you imagine magic book to be a crystal ball is far more interesting to me. Strange, how it can't get the past right and yet simultaneously can tell the future......
It's only about 10 percent or less super natural. The past and future are correct in the Book. Love to see that math on that one, lol. It was your contention..since you seem to need reminding, that other pagan myths were somehow crazier than your own pagan myth. You could only be insisting, above.... that your own myth is only ten percent crazy.
There's hardly a point engaging with you on the second half of that statement, it's fact free and fact immune by simple reference to the contents of this thread already.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm
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(December 16, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The Book of Daniel. Lets discuss it. I know a lot about the book if you want to discuss. You said you read it so what questions do you have about the predicted kingdoms with the statue or the beasts. The prediction of Messiah who would be cut off,....
You might want to start a separate thread for that if you are committed to a substantial discussion of it.
Yeah, that's a good point. We will see how he responds and if it will consume too much space in this thread.
(December 16, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
It's only about 10 percent or less super natural. The past and future are correct in the Book. Love to see that math on that one, lol. It was your contention..since you seem to need reminding, that other pagan myths were somehow crazier than your own pagan myth. You could only be insisting, above.... that your own myth is only ten percent crazy.
There's hardly a point engaging with you on the second half of that statement, it's fact free and fact immune by simple reference to the contents of this thread already.
The Christian creation story is fine. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Based on DNA and the fine-tuning of the universe we know this to be true.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm
(December 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The Christian creation story is fine. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Based on DNA and the fine-tuning of the universe we know this to be true.
There is no fine tuning, and DNA is not what you think it is. Repeating it does not convince anyone know these things far better than not only you, but the so called “scientist” you involved for your support.
Christian creation story is just as totally false as those others. But even things that are equally false can still be separated by vastly differing degrees of risibility. Christian creation story is just as totally false as any others, but more risible by far than most.
Time to put on a different broken record.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm
(December 16, 2018 at 12:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 14, 2018 at 7:10 pm)Amarok Wrote: It's legal in my country
That's awesome.
(December 14, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: More or less crazy than a weeklong sprinter god who breathes life into a golem in a garden before a dragon talks him into eating a magical fruit, leading to a dirt curse? I think that you fail to see how crazy your own myths are for no reason other than familiarity. It's like your batshit uncle..you know how you have to keep reassuring people who've never met him that he's really aight, deep down?
Why on earth would I be interested in what fundy loons think about the church of cathol? The fact that you imagine magic book to be a crystal ball is far more interesting to me. Strange, how it can't get the past right and yet simultaneously can tell the future......
It's only about 10 percent or less super natural. The past and future are correct in the Book.
(December 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Still waiting for you to list some of those alleged prophecies with historical citations that they actually happened.
The Book of Daniel. Lets discuss it. I know a lot about the book if you want to discuss. You said you read it so what questions do you have about the predicted kingdoms with the statue or the beasts. The prediction of Messiah who would be cut off,.... Yes it is
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