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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:20 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 8:09 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Historical sites, encylopedias, dictionaries, or educational sites imagining that the soviet apparatus did anything due to the non existent tenants of atheism? GL with that nonsense.
You're still stumbling over the fact that atheism concerns one's state of belief.
Do you understand?
Your atheism does. There are multiple definitions that are different than yours. Why should I apply yours? Give me a reason to besides "I said so" and I will consider it.
At this point I'm trying to be friendly about this, but I'm not going to change my position because you want me to. Also, if your definition is "the one" then you shouldn't have any trouble finding an unbiased educational source that states the same definition. If you do that and it confirms your view, I'll agree with you all day long.
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December 18, 2018 at 8:22 pm
Quote:Your atheism does. There are multiple definitions that are different than yours. Why should I apply yours? Give me a reason to besides "I said so" and I will consider it.
You can repeat this all day the long the answer remains the same
Quote:At this point I'm trying to be friendly about this, but I'm not going to change my position because you want me to.
No one cares
Quote:Also, if your definition is "the one" then you shouldn't have any trouble finding an unbiased educational source that states the same definition.
Lol he doesn't need too appease you
Quote:If you do that and it confirms your view, I'll agree with you all day long.
I don't think he cares if you agree
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:22 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 8:14 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:I'm sticking with historical sites, encyclopedias, dictionaries, and educational sites that tend not to show bias.
You sticking you convenient reading of all the above that fit your narrative and I'm poking holes in it
Quote: Sometimes I'll throw in a YT video.
Yup
Quote: Are you suggesting I don't frequently provide any of this?
You do but I explain this above
Quote: If so, I'll be happy to point you to some of them.
You have done so I have dealt with them
Quote:If not, which source, outside of possibly YT, specifically don't you accept as a valid source?
Already addressed this
Quote:If so I'll gladly reconsider it.
Addressed this above
So again this comment fails
If there was any, can you share one website that I cited that had some kind of bias? Can you show anything I might've intentionally misquoted from any of the websites? Again, happy to consider whatever you come up with.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:23 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 6:45 pm)Amarok Wrote: He was a power crazed man who used nothing to do with atheism as already explained to defeat his political rivals
Yes I know who he is
Yup nothing to do with atheism to eradicate organized religion his rival for power .
Thank you for this non refutation
Has everything to do with atheism. Your testimony isn't enough to refute anything. Provide a source or it's just your opinion about what something is. If not, stop wasting my time because you keep running around in circles with information that is well established. If you're wrong once, it's not right when you repeat it multiple times.
If atheism is so intrinsic to totalitarian regimes, how do you explain: Sweden (Olaf Palma), Denmark (Jens Otto Krag, H. C. Hansen), Australia (Julia Gillard), Norway (Jens Stoltenberg), France (François Hollande) all have had atheist heads of government?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:24 pm
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Quote:If there was any, can you share one website that I cited that had some kind of bias?
Again I addressed this
Quote:Can you show anything I might've intentionally misquoted from any of the websites?
Again I addressed this
Quote:Again, happy to consider whatever you come up with.
You clearly have not
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:25 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 8:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Your atheism does. There are multiple definitions that are different than yours. Why should I apply yours? Give me a reason to besides "I said so" and I will consider it.
You can repeat this all day the long the answer remains the same
Quote:At this point I'm trying to be friendly about this, but I'm not going to change my position because you want me to.
No one cares
Quote:Also, if your definition is "the one" then you shouldn't have any trouble finding an unbiased educational source that states the same definition.
Lol he doesn't need too appease you
Quote:If you do that and it confirms your view, I'll agree with you all day long.
I don't think he cares if you agree
He doesn't need to appease me, but don't tell me if I care or not. I also don't blindly accept someone's definition for things. Additionally, I've stated numerous times in one form or another that his definition could be applicable, and I'm not passing any judgment on it. It simply needs to be qualified for me to accept it in a broader sense.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:25 pm
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(December 18, 2018 at 8:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Has everything to do with atheism. Your testimony isn't enough to refute anything. Provide a source or it's just your opinion about what something is. If not, stop wasting my time because you keep running around in circles with information that is well established. If you're wrong once, it's not right when you repeat it multiple times.
If atheism is so intrinsic to totalitarian regimes, how do you explain: Sweden (Olaf Palma), Denmark (Jens Otto Krag, H. C. Hansen), Australia (Julia Gillard), Norway (Jens Stoltenberg), France (François Hollande) all have had atheist heads of government? It's clearly not nor is it needed for socialism as you can be a socialist without being an atheist
Quote: He doesn't need to appease me, but don't tell me if I care or not.
You don't show much of a sign of caring
Quote:I also don't blindly accept someone's definition for things.
You seem too
Quote:Additionally, I've stated numerous times in one form or another that his definition could be applicable, and I'm not passing any judgment on it.
You really have not
Quote:It simply needs to be qualified for me to accept it in a broader sense.
Nope Atheism is a state of none belief in god that all nothing more nothing less you choice too reject that isn't our problem .
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:29 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 8:24 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:If there was any, can you share one website that I cited that had some kind of bias?
Again I addressed this
Quote:Can you show anything I might've intentionally misquoted from any of the websites?
Again I addressed this
Quote:Again, happy to consider whatever you come up with.
You clearly have not
You keep suggesting I'm trying to pull something over on you, yet you can't come up with one example. If you're so certain of yourself, then here's your chance. Show me one educational source that I intentionally misused, changed the wording, or added any type of bias to it, or any that you believe had biased content. The only exception to this could possibly be YT, but I've already noted that.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:30 pm
Quote:You keep suggesting I'm trying to pull something over on you, yet you can't come up with one example. If you're so certain of yourself, then here's your chance. Show me one educational source that I intentionally misused, changed the wording, or added any type of bias to it, or any that you believe had biased content. The only exception to this could possibly be YT, but I've already noted that.
Yes you keep repeating this
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 8:33 pm
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(December 18, 2018 at 8:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Has everything to do with atheism. Your testimony isn't enough to refute anything. Provide a source or it's just your opinion about what something is. If not, stop wasting my time because you keep running around in circles with information that is well established. If you're wrong once, it's not right when you repeat it multiple times.
If atheism is so intrinsic to totalitarian regimes, how do you explain: Sweden (Olaf Palma), Denmark (Jens Otto Krag, H. C. Hansen), Australia (Julia Gillard), Norway (Jens Stoltenberg), France (François Hollande) all have had atheist heads of government?
Which post did I suggest "atheism is so intrinsic to totalitarian regimes." (plural)
(December 18, 2018 at 8:30 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:You keep suggesting I'm trying to pull something over on you, yet you can't come up with one example. If you're so certain of yourself, then here's your chance. Show me one educational source that I intentionally misused, changed the wording, or added any type of bias to it, or any that you believe had biased content. The only exception to this could possibly be YT, but I've already noted that.
Yes you keep repeating this
Okay, well I'm just going to assume you have no examples since I've given you multiple opportunities and you've come up with none, and I'm not going to wait indefinitely for you to validate your claims against me. If you want to keep telling yourself that I was trying to trick you in some way, then so be it. I can't control your mind, nor do I have any desire to.
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