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Evangelicals in decline.
#21
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
http://oxfordre.com/religion/view/10.109...40378-e-97

You're welcome.
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#22
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
(December 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: http://oxfordre.com/religion/view/10.109...40378-e-97

You're welcome.

Right, but there are several problems.

1. What is linked is looking specifically at "The Religious Right" and its influence.
2. The are competing views that suggest something differently.
3. The bit about people mostly keeping religion and politics separate in the 60s and 70s is incorrect.
4. Because there were discrepancies due to competing findings and views, there were additional studies done to examine the relationship more closely.

In the American Journal of Political Science, there was a study entitled "Religion, Stratification, and Politics: American in the 1960s (Knocke, D., May 1974)  It was determined that religion had the "largest net effect" on politics.

In the journal "Review of European Studies" a study was published by associates from Cornell University and Pennsylvania State University entitled "Politics, Religion, and Society: Is the United States Experiencing a Period of Religious-Political Polarization? (Hirschl, Booth, Glenna, Green, July 2012)"

From the Abstract:

"The research literature is divided on this question with several investigators finding a positive trend in religious-political polarization since 1980, and others finding no polarization. The study further addresses a putative link between social inequality and religious politics by identifying the race, class, and gender location of religiously influenced voters, using multiple cross sections from the General Social Survey to empirically model Presidential voting over the period 1980 to 2008. The findings demonstrate that religious identity influenced voter choice, and that this influence increased significantly and substantially across the study period. Second, that upper class whites are the source of religious partisan polarity, and upper class whites became more polarized over the period 1980 to 2008. The effect of gender on partisanship is less pronounced, and overshadowed by social class and religious identity."

From the Conclusion (Final Paragraph)

"The U.S. evidence suggests that secularization predicted by earlier social scientists is premature at best, and perhaps altogether misplaced. Religious worldviews continue to play an active role in U.S. Presidential politics,and there is no evidence that this role will diminish in the short-term, or in the medium term. We believe that a fruitful theory for interpreting these phenomena is Durkheim's theory set forth in The Elementary Forms. The empirical link between religion and politics suggests that religion in the United States is not confined to formal institutions, but also is an element in constituting the national community."
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#23
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
(December 19, 2018 at 11:57 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 19, 2018 at 11:40 am)Brian37 Wrote: Prior to Jerry Fartwell, and the "moral majority" back in the 60s and 70s whom went onto get evangelicals to hijack Reagan and the GOP, most religious people made more of an effort to keep religion and politics separate.

Proof?

-this was what you asked for a citation for, Max.  

Again, your'e welcome.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#24
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
(December 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: http://oxfordre.com/religion/view/10.109...40378-e-97

You're welcome.

BTW, thanks for sharing the link.

(December 19, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(December 19, 2018 at 11:57 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Proof?

-this was what you asked for a citation on, Max.  

Again, your'e welcome.

Yep. Thanks for that.  Acknowledged and appreciated.
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#25
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
Here's some more data:

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landsc...tribution/

Note the rise of the "nones".
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#26
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
At work.

Heart

Yay! Big Grin
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#27
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
I agree with divinity but can’t. Do kudos on my phone
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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#28
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
(December 23, 2018 at 12:16 pm)tackattack Wrote: I agree with divinity but can’t. Do kudos on my phone

You're glad about the rise of non-belief?
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#29
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
(December 23, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 23, 2018 at 12:16 pm)tackattack Wrote: I agree with divinity but can’t. Do kudos on my phone

You're glad about the rise of non-belief?

The Bible predicts that, no?
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#30
RE: Evangelicals in decline.
At work.

(December 23, 2018 at 12:44 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(December 23, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You're glad about the rise of non-belief?

The Bible predicts that, no?

Yah.... it feeds into the built in 'Persecution complex'.

Eventually we'll have frothing at the mouth mobs running around flaying Librarians/Scientists/Generally smart people and burning down Universities etc.

Just like the 'Good good days' that saw people forget about plumbing and general hygiene.

Tongue
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