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Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 5:55 am
I understand why some moderates insist on baptism, religious wedding and funerals. I disagree with them, but I understand why they want those things so bad.
However, what I do not understand is if a moderate insist that you shouldn't clean the house or do the laundry on Sunday, even if they claim that God won't punish you. These moderates don't have anything against if you do your homework or learn on Sunday, because repetition helps you learn. They also have nothing against people who work at a job during Sunday or holidays. When I asked them why you shouldn't do certain chores, they responded: "Because you need to relax.". I agree that we all need a break from time to time, but why such a big break on Sunday every time?
Some of them also insist that you shouldn't eat anything, before you eat the cracker at the Eucharist. Why? Do they think that God, the creator of the Universe would create such a stupid ritual to give you luck and would care if you ate something or not before? If they're doing it for social reasons only, why bother not to eat before? People are not going to look through your stomach. Are they afraid that someone might ask them if they ate and they don't want to lie? Finally, the moderates that I know insist with this rule, tell me that they have religion just for comfort. Why does this give them comfort? If they're imagining that a God protects them, why even bother with certain rituals that nobody cares about? Do they like the game monkey see, monkey do so much that they'll do it when it's completely unnecessary?
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 6:09 am
It's because religion is just silly
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 8:34 am
(February 3, 2019 at 5:55 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: I understand why some moderates insist on baptism, religious wedding and funerals. I disagree with them, but I understand why they want those things so bad.
However, what I do not understand is if a moderate insist that you shouldn't clean the house or do the laundry on Sunday, even if they claim that God won't punish you. These moderates don't have anything against if you do your homework or learn on Sunday, because repetition helps you learn. They also have nothing against people who work at a job during Sunday or holidays. When I asked them why you shouldn't do certain chores, they responded: "Because you need to relax.". I agree that we all need a break from time to time, but why such a big break on Sunday every time?
Some of them also insist that you shouldn't eat anything, before you eat the cracker at the Eucharist. Why? Do they think that God, the creator of the Universe would create such a stupid ritual to give you luck and would care if you ate something or not before? If they're doing it for social reasons only, why bother not to eat before? People are not going to look through your stomach. Are they afraid that someone might ask them if they ate and they don't want to lie? Finally, the moderates that I know insist with this rule, tell me that they have religion just for comfort. Why does this give them comfort? If they're imagining that a God protects them, why even bother with certain rituals that nobody cares about? Do they like the game monkey see, monkey do so much that they'll do it when it's completely unnecessary?
What brand of Christianity are you referring too, that demands nothing be eaten before the Eucharist, and nothing all be done on Sunday?
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 10:10 am
Sabbath is Saturday, Sunday is Lord’s day. Fasting is physical preparation for spiritual gain. I’m not aware of any western denominational doctrine regarding no work on Sunday.
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 10:11 am
(February 3, 2019 at 8:34 am)Acrobat Wrote: (February 3, 2019 at 5:55 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: I understand why some moderates insist on baptism, religious wedding and funerals. I disagree with them, but I understand why they want those things so bad.
However, what I do not understand is if a moderate insist that you shouldn't clean the house or do the laundry on Sunday, even if they claim that God won't punish you. These moderates don't have anything against if you do your homework or learn on Sunday, because repetition helps you learn. They also have nothing against people who work at a job during Sunday or holidays. When I asked them why you shouldn't do certain chores, they responded: "Because you need to relax.". I agree that we all need a break from time to time, but why such a big break on Sunday every time?
Some of them also insist that you shouldn't eat anything, before you eat the cracker at the Eucharist. Why? Do they think that God, the creator of the Universe would create such a stupid ritual to give you luck and would care if you ate something or not before? If they're doing it for social reasons only, why bother not to eat before? People are not going to look through your stomach. Are they afraid that someone might ask them if they ate and they don't want to lie? Finally, the moderates that I know insist with this rule, tell me that they have religion just for comfort. Why does this give them comfort? If they're imagining that a God protects them, why even bother with certain rituals that nobody cares about? Do they like the game monkey see, monkey do so much that they'll do it when it's completely unnecessary?
What brand of Christianity are you referring too, that demands nothing be eaten before the Eucharist, and nothing all be done on Sunday?
Both Catholicism and Orthodoxism.
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 10:16 am
(February 3, 2019 at 8:34 am)Acrobat Wrote: (February 3, 2019 at 5:55 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: I understand why some moderates insist on baptism, religious wedding and funerals. I disagree with them, but I understand why they want those things so bad.
However, what I do not understand is if a moderate insist that you shouldn't clean the house or do the laundry on Sunday, even if they claim that God won't punish you. These moderates don't have anything against if you do your homework or learn on Sunday, because repetition helps you learn. They also have nothing against people who work at a job during Sunday or holidays. When I asked them why you shouldn't do certain chores, they responded: "Because you need to relax.". I agree that we all need a break from time to time, but why such a big break on Sunday every time?
Some of them also insist that you shouldn't eat anything, before you eat the cracker at the Eucharist. Why? Do they think that God, the creator of the Universe would create such a stupid ritual to give you luck and would care if you ate something or not before? If they're doing it for social reasons only, why bother not to eat before? People are not going to look through your stomach. Are they afraid that someone might ask them if they ate and they don't want to lie? Finally, the moderates that I know insist with this rule, tell me that they have religion just for comfort. Why does this give them comfort? If they're imagining that a God protects them, why even bother with certain rituals that nobody cares about? Do they like the game monkey see, monkey do so much that they'll do it when it's completely unnecessary?
What brand of Christianity are you referring too, that demands nothing be eaten before the Eucharist, and nothing all be done on Sunday? Catholicism used to be very strict on those. People were punished for working on sunday quite severly.
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 10:35 am
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 10:59 am
(February 3, 2019 at 10:16 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (February 3, 2019 at 8:34 am)Acrobat Wrote: What brand of Christianity are you referring too, that demands nothing be eaten before the Eucharist, and nothing all be done on Sunday? Catholicism used to be very strict on those. People were punished for working on sunday quite severly.
Where do you find this flavor of Catholics?
I grew up surrounded by Catholics in an area that was well over 90% Catholic.
We weren't supposed to eat before mass (and communion) on Sundays but I was never sure how that translated when Saturday night mass in place of Sunday morning was implemented. If there was a memo as to how long we were to go without food prior to mass, I missed it.
As for no work on Sunday...I grew up in a farming area. You can be sure there was work done on Sundays. The livestock apparently weren't Catholic and someone had to feed and check on them.
And you can bet your ass that preparation of a meal for a Catholic-sized farm family required work.
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 1:24 pm
(February 3, 2019 at 5:55 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: I understand why some moderates insist on baptism, religious wedding and funerals. I disagree with them, but I understand why they want those things so bad.
However, what I do not understand is if a moderate insist that you shouldn't clean the house or do the laundry on Sunday, even if they claim that God won't punish you. These moderates don't have anything against if you do your homework or learn on Sunday, because repetition helps you learn. They also have nothing against people who work at a job during Sunday or holidays. When I asked them why you shouldn't do certain chores, they responded: "Because you need to relax.". I agree that we all need a break from time to time, but why such a big break on Sunday every time?
Some of them also insist that you shouldn't eat anything, before you eat the cracker at the Eucharist. Why? Do they think that God, the creator of the Universe would create such a stupid ritual to give you luck and would care if you ate something or not before? If they're doing it for social reasons only, why bother not to eat before? People are not going to look through your stomach. Are they afraid that someone might ask them if they ate and they don't want to lie? Finally, the moderates that I know insist with this rule, tell me that they have religion just for comfort. Why does this give them comfort? If they're imagining that a God protects them, why even bother with certain rituals that nobody cares about? Do they like the game monkey see, monkey do so much that they'll do it when it's completely unnecessary?
This is classic. You're all up in other people's business about things that you imagine that they do and you don't approve of what you imagine about them one single bit. You're sitting around literally imagining reasons to be offended with people. You need a hobby or something.
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RE: Why are some moderates insistent on religious rituals?
February 3, 2019 at 1:38 pm
(February 3, 2019 at 10:59 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (February 3, 2019 at 10:16 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Catholicism used to be very strict on those. People were punished for working on sunday quite severly.
Where do you find this flavor of Catholics?
I grew up surrounded by Catholics in an area that was well over 90% Catholic.
We weren't supposed to eat before mass (and communion) on Sundays but I was never sure how that translated when Saturday night mass in place of Sunday morning was implemented. If there was a memo as to how long we were to go without food prior to mass, I missed it.
As for no work on Sunday...I grew up in a farming area. You can be sure there was work done on Sundays. The livestock apparently weren't Catholic and someone had to feed and check on them.
And you can bet your ass that preparation of a meal for a Catholic-sized farm family required work.
^^^Exactly this. I recall one of my brothers objecting to farm work on a Sunday and our father very patiently explaining to him that 1) God would understand the necessity; 2) Working the farm was what fed us; and 3) If Mikey didn't give over the goldbricking, he'd be taking his next meal through a tube.
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