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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 1:22 pm
(March 13, 2019 at 1:18 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 12:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That is good to know for the most part. One thing I disagree with though, is that I have a layman's understanding of this topic. I've studied the topic pretty extensively and I was schooled in science and engineering through a bacehlor's degree in ME. I have more than a layman's understanding of this.
By the way, the international conspiracy is through the secret societies, like the Freemasons, which exist all over the world.
You have an education in depth in one particular field. This is good.
On the topic about which we are having these posts? You're like me.
A lay-person who's able to read articles such as 'New Scientist' I'm betting (Please feel free to elucidate your level of reading, though) that you're about the same.
I socialise with folks who have double batcheors etc. Yes, in their fields they know such fundamental nuts and bolts about their feild such that they have to take a five or ten minute break/time out just to boot strap me into a level of undestanding about the thing they then want to explain/expand something upon to me.
In things like genetics and such CDF47? We're (You and me) fekkin' morons.
If people such as Mr Dawkins et all say Fundamentalist Christians are simply wrong about the things they are espousing in regards to said fields... Who shold we put more credit to?
If I want to engineer something. Should I seek out your consultation?
Or should I seek out some one who's got the skills set for decorativly placing icing on a dessert?
Pleae, again, don't get me wrong. I also know professional chefs. My heartfelt respect to such folks. It's also an art as much as a science. I'm not going to ask my Chef mate about quantum mechanics, though.
Are we in agreement? Or at leasst a better understanding of one another?
Not at work.
Yes, I understand you. I am not an expert in genetics but I do have a pretty good basic understanding. There are scientists that disagree with Dr. Dawkins. Scientists that have just as good or better credentials disagree with him in certain regards. Dr. Meyer is a great example of one such scientist.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 1:27 pm
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(March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I have not been wrong. See the definition in my post above. This is what I thought it meant. I read the misconceptions but that does not rule out what I said. It does not rule out that we all descend from one woman (or one man).
Yes you are wrong. Totally wrong.
Mitochondrial Eve HERSELF existed in a long line of and ALONG WITH other humans and in the context of other related homo lines.
She didn't birth herself, full-blown with human genes which INCLUDE obvious (non-mitochondrial human) mutations in previous generations.
It is entirely possible at some point in the future an earlier human female will be found, (just as SHE WAS FOUND). Creationists didn't give a hoot about genetics until Mitochondrial Eve was discovered and they could MIS-CHARACTERIZE her status, in order to LIE and support about their pseudo-science and (false) literal ignorant interpretation of ancient Near Eastern literature, (which American Fundamentalism stupidly chose as their hill they would die on).
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n...180959593/
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 1:29 pm
(March 13, 2019 at 1:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not an expert in genetics but I do have a pretty good basic understanding.
This thread demonstrates otherwise.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:08 pm
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BTW folks, a few weeks ago, a synthetic DNA was announced that carries with it a doubling of DNA density .... thus proving the piss-poor design of this so-called god-created code.
If a much better one was possible, how is it, a perfect being did not even know about it ?
https://physicsworld.com/a/hachimoji-dna...etic-code/
"Researchers in the US have built an “alien” DNA system from eight building block letters, so expanding the genetic code from four and doubling its information density. The new system meets all of the requirements for Darwinian evolution and can also be transcribed to RNA. It will be important for future synthetic biology applications and expands the scope of molecular structures that might be capable of supporting life, both here on Earth and more widely in the universe."
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:29 pm
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(March 13, 2019 at 1:27 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I have not been wrong. See the definition in my post above. This is what I thought it meant. I read the misconceptions but that does not rule out what I said. It does not rule out that we all descend from one woman (or one man).
Yes you are wrong. Totally wrong.
Mitochondrial Eve HERSELF existed in a long line of and ALONG WITH other humans and in the context of other related homo lines.
She didn't birth herself, full-blown with human genes which INCLUDE obvious (non-mitochondrial human) mutations in previous generations.
It is entirely possible at some point in the future an earlier human female will be found, (just as SHE WAS FOUND). Creationists didn't give a hoot about genetics until Mitochondrial Eve was discovered and they could MIS-CHARACTERIZE her status, in order to LIE and support about their pseudo-science and (false) literal ignorant interpretation of ancient Near Eastern literature, (which American Fundamentalism stupidly chose as their hill they would die on).
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n...180959593/
It does not rule out that man and woman descend from one man and one woman.
(March 13, 2019 at 1:29 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 1:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not an expert in genetics but I do have a pretty good basic understanding.
This thread demonstrates otherwise.
Wrong at that.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm
(March 13, 2019 at 12:35 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The post was in response to those that mock conspiracies when there are actual conspiracies that occur. It is important to this thread in that way. It is the same as the elite control on our media,... Look at all the atheist materialist science we get from the media, television, radio, schooling,... There is a conspiracy just as there has been countless conspiracies in the past. Indeed real conspiracies exist.
The campaign by the Russians to get Trump elected being the most recent. Their long time asset has given total victory to the Russians.
But also there was the republican conspiracies by Nixon.
Those right wingers do like to conspire don't they.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2019 at 2:37 pm by CDF47.)
(March 13, 2019 at 2:08 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: BTW folks, a few weeks ago, a synthetic DNA was announced that carries with it a doubling of DNA density .... thus proving the piss-poor design of this so-called god-created code.
If a much better one was possible, how is it, a perfect being did not even know about it ?
https://physicsworld.com/a/hachimoji-dna...etic-code/
"Researchers in the US have built an “alien” DNA system from eight building block letters, so expanding the genetic code from four and doubling its information density. The new system meets all of the requirements for Darwinian evolution and can also be transcribed to RNA. It will be important for future synthetic biology applications and expands the scope of molecular structures that might be capable of supporting life, both here on Earth and more widely in the universe."
Again, the intent is not perfection but to be born, decay, and die.
(March 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 12:35 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The post was in response to those that mock conspiracies when there are actual conspiracies that occur. It is important to this thread in that way. It is the same as the elite control on our media,... Look at all the atheist materialist science we get from the media, television, radio, schooling,... There is a conspiracy just as there has been countless conspiracies in the past. Indeed real conspiracies exist.
The campaign by the Russians to get Trump elected being the most recent. Their long time asset has given total victory to the Russians.
But also there was the republican conspiracies by Nixon.
Those right wingers do like to conspire don't they.
Oh there are plenty of conspiracies but hard to tell disinfo from real info. Need good sources and good discernment. I believe COINTELPRO, Operation Paper Clip, Operation Mockingbird, Project MK Ultra, Operation Gladio, and numerous others are real conspiracies. I also believe JFK was taken out by a contingent of CIA operatives and others. He really went head strong against the system.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm
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(March 13, 2019 at 2:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It does not rule out that man and woman descend from one man and one woman.
So in fact, by saying that, you just demonstrated yet again, you know nothing about human genetics.
Quote:Again, the intent is not perfection but to be born, decay, and die.
So much for your bs about the "fall".
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:51 pm
(March 13, 2019 at 2:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(March 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Indeed real conspiracies exist.
The campaign by the Russians to get Trump elected being the most recent. Their long time asset has given total victory to the Russians.
But also there was the republican conspiracies by Nixon.
Those right wingers do like to conspire don't they.
Oh there are plenty of conspiracies but hard to tell disinfo from real info. Need good sources and good discernment. I believe COINTELPRO, Operation Paper Clip, Operation Mockingbird, Project MK Ultra, Operation Gladio, and numerous others are real conspiracies. I also believe JFK was taken out by a contingent of CIA operatives and others. He really went head strong against the system.
The thing is it doesn't matter what you believe it matters what you can prove.
As we have seen you believe rather a lot of silly things so I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 13, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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(March 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 2:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It does not rule out that man and woman descend from one man and one woman.
So in fact, by saying that, you just demonstrated yet again, you know nothing about human genetics.
Quote:Again, the intent is not perfection but to be born, decay, and die.
So much for your bs about the "fall".
Wrong.
Yes, it does have to do with the fall. Adam and Eve may have had perfect genes before the fall.
(March 13, 2019 at 2:51 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (March 13, 2019 at 2:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
Oh there are plenty of conspiracies but hard to tell disinfo from real info. Need good sources and good discernment. I believe COINTELPRO, Operation Paper Clip, Operation Mockingbird, Project MK Ultra, Operation Gladio, and numerous others are real conspiracies. I also believe JFK was taken out by a contingent of CIA operatives and others. He really went head strong against the system.
The thing is it doesn't matter what you believe it matters what you can prove.
As we have seen you believe rather a lot of silly things so I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.
Again, it takes good judgment and discernment often to tell fact from fiction. Which conspiracies of the ones I listed do you think are false? Also, why do you think it is false? Which sources do you believe are disengenuous?
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