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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2019 at 5:23 pm
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I have a master’s degree in engineering, and I can tell when things are not designed. So shut up, flunky of a would be padewan
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 21, 2019 at 6:53 pm
(May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 21, 2019 at 10:27 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Which doesn't lend even a shred of credibility to your claims about DNA or your religious beliefs.
I understand the creation of proteins is like a manufacturing plant in engineering. There are also transportation systems, communication protocols,...., All that I am familiar with. There are parts, assemblies, codes, constructs, nano-machines,.......
None of which demonstrate intelligent design.
Clearly, you don't understand DNA, as has been demonstrated here again and again. Once again, you've made claims which you can't back up with evidence. You're completely out of your depth. Get an education!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 1:40 am
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(May 21, 2019 at 5:18 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Maybe that's because engineers know design when we see it. That has been clearly demonstrated to be false.
As an engineer, it should be trivial to elucidate your criteria for a decision point as to whether anything is or is not designed. Somehow, the best you can come up with is "it's obvious" which is not an answer that any engineer would give to any question, ever.
Putting on my professional hat, I am asking you to make a rock solid case for your position. You have yet to do so.
As an engineer and an employer, if any of my various minions came to me with nothing more that "it's obvious" as a rationale for anything, they would not be reluctantly fired, they would be enthusiastically fired.
(May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I understand the creation of proteins is like a manufacturing plant in engineering. There are also transportation systems, communication protocols,...., All that I am familiar with. There are parts, assemblies, codes, constructs, nano-machines,....... No, you don't understand any of it. You fail to understand the difference between analogy and reality. You really are that stupid.
Read the OP and posts throughout this thread. I say a lot more than it is obvious.
(May 21, 2019 at 6:53 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: (May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
I understand the creation of proteins is like a manufacturing plant in engineering. There are also transportation systems, communication protocols,...., All that I am familiar with. There are parts, assemblies, codes, constructs, nano-machines,.......
None of which demonstrate intelligent design.
Clearly, you don't understand DNA, as has been demonstrated here again and again. Once again, you've made claims which you can't back up with evidence. You're completely out of your depth. Get an education!
Yes, it does demonstrate design.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 3:50 am
(May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I understand the creation of proteins is like a manufacturing plant in engineering. There are also transportation systems, communication protocols,...., All that I am familiar with. Great, then please explain the protocols. Please explain your competence to talk about (software) protocols as a mechanical and system engineer.
As a system engineer you also surely can explain to us the architecture of said transportation systems. The the safety mechanisms, general measures for robustness, how various functions make use of protocols, etc..
The fact that something reminds you of something you (as a mechanical engineer, hardly) know does not mean it actually is like the stuff you know, you.....know?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 4:14 am
(May 22, 2019 at 3:50 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (May 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I understand the creation of proteins is like a manufacturing plant in engineering. There are also transportation systems, communication protocols,...., All that I am familiar with. Great, then please explain the protocols. Please explain your competence to talk about (software) protocols as a mechanical and system engineer.
As a system engineer you also surely can explain to us the architecture of said transportation systems. The the safety mechanisms, general measures for robustness, how various functions make use of protocols, etc..
The fact that something reminds you of something you (as a mechanical engineer, hardly) know does not mean it actually is like the stuff you know, you.....know?
Actually I dealt with controls and communication protocols in the past. You know nothing about my background.
I am not re explaining things I explained already in this thread.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 6:21 am
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(May 22, 2019 at 4:14 am)CDF47 Wrote: (May 22, 2019 at 3:50 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Great, then please explain the protocols. Please explain your competence to talk about (software) protocols as a mechanical and system engineer.
As a system engineer you also surely can explain to us the architecture of said transportation systems. The the safety mechanisms, general measures for robustness, how various functions make use of protocols, etc..
The fact that something reminds you of something you (as a mechanical engineer, hardly) know does not mean it actually is like the stuff you know, you.....know?
Actually I dealt with controls and communication protocols in the past. You know nothing about my background.
I am not re explaining things I explained already in this thread.
That's doubtful considering your comments and that's all we need to judge
You explained nothing
Quote:Read the OP and posts throughout this thread. I say a lot more than it is obvious.
No you really don't
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 6:30 am
(May 22, 2019 at 4:14 am)CDF47 Wrote: (May 22, 2019 at 3:50 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Great, then please explain the protocols. Please explain your competence to talk about (software) protocols as a mechanical and system engineer.
As a system engineer you also surely can explain to us the architecture of said transportation systems. The the safety mechanisms, general measures for robustness, how various functions make use of protocols, etc..
The fact that something reminds you of something you (as a mechanical engineer, hardly) know does not mean it actually is like the stuff you know, you.....know?
Actually I dealt with controls and communication protocols in the past. You know nothing about my background.
I am not re explaining things I explained already in this thread.
What you explained is that DNA contains information and is functional and hence it is designed by a designer and that designer you call God.
We can take issue with DNA having information, but then we get too deeply into what is information.
I don't see much issue with it being functional, though the functionality it just biochemistry.
The "hence" part is the one everyone takes issue with.
You see.... actually, it's been told to you, so you clearly do not see, but oh well... in the world where a designer god exists, everything would be designed and so there would be no need to make any case for a design based on a few particularities that you observe in DNA, but do not observe in many other things in the natural world, like crystals or just rocks. This alone makes your "hence", your "obvious", become null - if everything is designed, everything contains marks of the design, DNA included. No need to make a special provision for DNA. That's where arguments like the fine tuning come in, but that's not what you're advocating here.
You wished to make a case based solely on DNA, stemming from your inability to comprehend evolution and biochemistry.
You've been told to develop an evolutionary algorithm to see how things develop in a virtual system in the hopes that it would help you understand how far evolution can take simple basic rules, like those found in chemistry and develop biochemistry. Mimic what others have made, google evolutionary computer model... maybe you'll find something already made in python (which is free).
Learn how powerful evolution is and then maybe you'll break free of your micro-macro idiocy and then maybe you'll understand what some folk have been telling you about your belief in an incompetent god.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 7:55 am
(May 22, 2019 at 1:40 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 21, 2019 at 6:53 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: None of which demonstrate intelligent design.
Clearly, you don't understand DNA, as has been demonstrated here again and again. Once again, you've made claims which you can't back up with evidence. You're completely out of your depth. Get an education!
Yes, it does demonstrate design.
And your evidence for this outrageous claim is...........?????
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 8:00 am
(May 22, 2019 at 7:55 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: And your evidence for this outrageous claim is...........?????
The bible. Wow, that was easy.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 22, 2019 at 8:02 am
(May 22, 2019 at 8:00 am)LastPoet Wrote: (May 22, 2019 at 7:55 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: And your evidence for this outrageous claim is...........?????
The bible. Wow, that was easy.
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