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Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
#31
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
Drich, how do you feel about the fact that he doesn't realize brown congresspeople can be "from" the U.S.?
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#32
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 9:50 am)Aegon Wrote:
(July 14, 2019 at 2:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So...people in government aren't supposed to have a voice in how to run the government?

Boru

If you have a problem with this country, then you can leave. That's the American attitude. Like when the colonists were under what they considered tyrannical rule in 1776, they just moved to another country. Or when the South thought their rights were under fire and the government was acting tyrannical in the 1850s, they all simply moved to another place.

All the people who don’t want to accept that abortion is constitutional should just leave too. 😉
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#33
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
Is anyone surprised by the repulsive shit that comes out of that living shit stain's big mac hole anymore? I'm not.
I am not even surprised that there's people out there who wholeheartedly support him, despite the endless reasons to shun him from polite society. This man is a pedo, a rapist, a liar, a traitor to his nation, a racist, a failure as a businessman, and an idiot in general.

None of that matters to his base. They are mostly evangelical christians, and those kinds of unseemly people don't care about shit unless it's not born and dwelling in the body of a female, having consensual butt sex, or scissoring while not hot and exclusively for their pleasure. It's not a far stretch to see why they don't have a problem with his sexual assault on children, as the children were already born, and it's something they do, and hide behind their piety. His god is money, and though most of them don't have any, deep down inside them, it's their god too.

I get why gross people like a gross man. I do.
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RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 12:11 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 9:50 am)Aegon Wrote: If you have a problem with this country, then you can leave. That's the American attitude. Like when the colonists were under what they considered tyrannical rule in 1776, they just moved to another country. Or when the South thought their rights were under fire and the government was acting tyrannical in the 1850s, they all simply moved to another place.

All the people who don’t want to accept that abortion is constitutional should just leave too. 😉
You gotta love how antithetical that sentiment is to not only American democracy itself but even the statements Trump himself made to those four Congresswomen.

Also, Drich, that whole 40 acres and a mule thing? It didn’t even last a year before President Johnson reneged on that promise. Most of the land promised went back to white farmers and virtually all that was given to freedmen would eventually be taken away from them anyway.
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#35
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
I am thoroughly convinced there is a drunk Sheldon J. Plankton running around in trump's cabeza. People get surprised and upset at his tweets, I don't think he really understands how words work. He just chucks words he thinks sound smart into some Secret Service random sentence generator and hopes for the best.
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#36
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 11:08 am)Drich Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 9:50 am)Aegon Wrote: If you have a problem with this country, then you can leave. That's the American attitude. Like when the colonists were under what they considered tyrannical rule in 1776, they just moved to another country. Or when the South thought their rights were under fire and the government was acting tyrannical in the 1850s, they all simply moved to another place.

.... but they did.

The colonist left the empire did they not?

The south left the union did they not?

Trump said stop bitching about how bad it is here if you can do better, go home and make you s-hole countries better. Then come back and teach us.

The colonist left the empire and show england how to 'do it better.' and guess what sport, england follow suit more or less

The confederacy left the union and could not do better but those slaves who wanted to leave the us got the opportunity to return to africa or got their 40 acres and a mule in central and south america, and as a result the colonist to central and south america failed or where assimilated into the country that are there now, and we can see what type of country the freed men and women built who did not want to stay here but returned to africa in the way of liberia. In essence the slave who did not want to stay left and got a chance to build their own country.

No, they didn't leave in the same way people say "if you don't like it, then leave." I was joking. Because the colonists and Southerners did the literal opposite of "leave the country."
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RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 12:05 pm)Shell B Wrote: Drich, how do you feel about the fact that he doesn't realize brown congresspeople can be "from" the U.S.?

when did he say this?

(July 16, 2019 at 1:34 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 12:11 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: All the people who don’t want to accept that abortion is constitutional should just leave too. 😉
You gotta love how antithetical that sentiment is to not only American democracy itself but even the statements Trump himself made to those four Congresswomen.

Also, Drich, that whole 40 acres and a mule thing? It didn’t even last a year before President Johnson reneged on that promise. Most of the land promised went back to white farmers and virtually all that was given to freedmen would eventually be taken away from them anyway.
Read your own source material REV.Moron..

40 acres and a mule was orginally slated to happen 
Lincoln had long supported colonization as a plausible solution to the problem of slavery, and pursued colonization plans throughout his presidency.[131][132] In 1862, Congress approved $600,000 to fund Lincoln's plan for colonizing blacks "in a climate congenial to them", and granted Lincoln broad executive powers to orchestrate colonization.[132][133]Lincoln immediately created an Emigration Office within the Department of the Interior and instructed the State Department to acquire suitable land.[132] The first major planconsidered would have sent employed free blacks as coal miners in Chiriquí Province, Panama (then part of Gran Colombia). Volunteers were promised 40 acres of land and a job in the mines; Senator , whom Lincoln had appointed to oversee the plan, had also purchased mules, yokes, tools, wagons, seeds, and other supplies to support a potential colony. Pomeroy accepted 500 of the 13,700 people who applied for the job. However, the plan was canceled by the end of the year—due perhaps to Latin American and British opposition, or to a discovery that Chiriquí's coal was of poor quality.

then it was open up to 46 million acres in florida mississippi and lousiana all prime swamp land. but the program shut down not due to the lack of funding but due to the lack of intrest and partisipants. No one wanted to move and work their own claims when they could work with their former masters. gotta remember a lot of slaves grew up working and living with their masters and that was all they wanted or knew and did not care to change. like it or not many where happy as not ever plantation was a version of the 'roots' plantation. most where family farms and the farmers did not live much better than the slaves themselves. they worked togather and eeked out a living togther.

Now there where big plantation which where hard on everyone including fellow white farmers because they often set prices in the market that would starve out the smaller farms, and then buy up all of their lands and holding and then when they owned everything they jacked up the prices because there was no compentition. these mega plantation did exist but where few and far between. Even so most of the slaves elected to stay rather than go and claim their 40 acres and a mule which was later uped to 80 and 120 to try and drum up interest.
n December 1865, Congress began to debate the "Second Freedmen's Bureau bill", which would have opened three million acres of unoccupied public land in Florida, Mississippi, and Arkansas for homesteading.[153] (An amendment to allow black homesteading on public lands in the North was defeated.) Congress passed the bill in February 1866 but could not override Johnson's veto.[154] (Congress passed a more limited "Second Freedmen's Bureau Bill" in July 1866, and did override Johnson's veto.)
Howard continued to push for Congress to appropriate land for allocation to freedmen. With support from Thaddeus Stevens and William Fessenden, Congress began to debate a new bill for black settlement of public lands in the South. The result was the Southern Homestead Act, which opened 46,398,544.87 acres of land in Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas to homesteading; initially 80-acre parcels (half-quarter section) until June 1868, and thereafter 160-acre parcels (quarter section). Johnson signed this bill and it went into effect on June 21, 1866. Until January 1, 1867, the bill specified, only free blacks and loyal whites would be allowed access to these lands.[155]
Howard, concerned about competition with Confederates that would begin in 1867, ordered Bureau agents to inform free blacks about the Homesteading Act.[156] Local commissioners did not disseminate the information widely,[157] and many freedpeople were unwilling to venture into unknown territory, with insufficient supplies, based only on the promise of land after five years.[158]
Those who did attempt homesteading encountered unreliable bureaucracy that often did not comply with federal law. They also faced extremely harsh conditions, usually on low quality land that had been rejected by white settlers in years past. Nevertheless, free blacks entered about 6,500 claims to homesteads; about 1000 of these eventually resulted in property certificates.[159]

(all from your citation)
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#38
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 12:23 pm)RainShark Wrote: Is anyone surprised by the repulsive shit that comes out of that living shit stain's big mac hole anymore? I'm not.
I am not even surprised that there's people out there who wholeheartedly support him, despite the endless reasons to shun him from polite society. This man is a pedo, a rapist, a liar, a traitor to his nation, a racist, a failure as a businessman, and an idiot in general.

None of that matters to his base. They are mostly evangelical christians, and those kinds of unseemly people don't care about shit unless it's not born and dwelling in the body of a female, having consensual butt sex, or scissoring while not hot and exclusively for their pleasure. It's not a far stretch to see why they don't have a problem with his sexual assault on children, as the children were already born, and it's something they do, and hide behind their piety. His god is money, and though most of them don't have any, deep down inside them, it's their god too.

I get why gross people like a gross man. I do.

I wasn't shocked, even before he ran, with him perpetuating the birther bullshit. What shocked me however, is that I mistakenly thought he'd be too much for the rest of the party and they'd drum him out. Sadly I was wrong.

The sell of fear is a strong force in politics, and even outside this country, in human history worldwide, that political sell of fear can lead entire societies down very dark roads. I think this unfortunate part of or species is that once we get used to a pattern, a social norm, we fear change and all it takes is a politician to say evil things like "I got your back, we are the true ones, we won't lose our spot, it is their fault, they are destroying us, and I am the only one whom can save you. I will put you back on your rightful place on top."

And the further out you get from a horrible event, the people whom lived it get old and die so fewer people live to serve as a reminder. 

It is important that we do not sugar coat our history, and not gloss it over like we had for far too long.
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#39
RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 12:23 pm)RainShark Wrote: Is anyone surprised by the repulsive shit that comes out of that living shit stain's big mac hole anymore? I'm not.
I am not even surprised that there's people out there who wholeheartedly support him, despite the endless reasons to shun him from polite society. This man is a pedo, a rapist, a liar, a traitor to his nation, a racist, a failure as a businessman, and an idiot in general.

None of that matters to his base. They are mostly evangelical christians, and those kinds of unseemly people don't care about shit unless it's not born and dwelling in the body of a female, having consensual butt sex, or scissoring while not hot and exclusively for their pleasure. It's not a far stretch to see why they don't have a problem with his sexual assault on children, as the children were already born, and it's something they do, and hide behind their piety. His god is money, and though most of them don't have any, deep down inside them, it's their god too.

I get why gross people like a gross man. I do.

I am only surprised when I naively think he can't say/do anything worse than he's already done.  

Actually, I still hold out a shred of hope that the seemingly endless downward spiral we are in will stop.

I am actually sort of glad that I am old and not in the best of health because I don't want to see exactly where it is that he/we hit bottom.
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RE: Trump under fire for racially-charged tweets against congresswomen
(July 16, 2019 at 2:48 pm)Drich Wrote: when did he say this?

I assume that must be his confusion, since he told four brown women who are born in the United States, most of them from parents who were born in the United States to "go back to the countries they are from." What's up with that?
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