Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: February 11, 2025, 4:42 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Deconversion and some doubts
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
You can’t explain how moral realism requires a theistic god.

You can’t explain how it requires a deistic god.

You can’t explain how it requires any kind of god.

You can’t explain why you thought it did.

You can’t explain why you responded to the op the way you did.

You can’t explain why you argued the things you argued.

You can’t explain what your position is.

You can’t explain why don’t know what your position is.

....and you can’t explain why you keep stalling rather than offering any explanation, for anything, that you do possess.

What - can- you explain?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:22 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You can’t explain how moral realism requires a theistic god.

You can’t explain how it requires a deistic god.

You can’t explain how it requires any kind of god.

Since I don’t hold this position, given your definition of moral realism. Since I don’t hold these positions why would i defend or explain them?

Quote:You can’t explain why you thought it did.

Because I didn’t expect self identifying moral realist to reject moral statement like x is bad, as normative, or render them as purely descriptive. Or indicate that all they’re doing is substituting the word harm with bad. Rather than quibbling over the semantics I let you have your own moral vocabulary.

For any moral realist here, who agrees with your understanding of it, I concede that this view requires no god of any sort.

Vulcans was the only one to offer anything really interesting here, and that was his belief in a Platonic conception of Good, surprised no one else found that worth exploring.

Quote:You can’t explain why don’t know what your position is.

I know what my positions are, I just don’t know what position you want me to explain.
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
Nothing, then. You can’t explain a single thing....and yet you keep posting and arguing.

Bet you can’t explain that either, huh.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:42 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nothing, then. You can’t explain a single thing....and yet you keep posting and arguing.

Bet you can’t explain that either, huh.

Nothing then, you can’t tell me which of my positions you want me to explain. Yet you keep posting and arguing.

Bet you can’t explain that either, huh.
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
Sure I can, I’m not interested in humoring your incessant bullshit.

Only in providing you the opportunity to show that it is incessant bullshit, which is the one thing you managed to accomplish.

: golfclap :

If you wanted to see an exploration of platonic or generally non natural realism you can search the boards. Vulcan and I ( and others) have done that.

Why anyone would want to deal with your bullshit in a conversation like that is truly inexplicable.

Reading it would provide you with an example of what two people who actually know what they’re discussing looks like, even when they disagree.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Sure I can, I’m not interested in humoring your incessant bullshit.

So you know which position you want me to explain, but just don’t want to tell me it, because you don’t want to humor me?

Instead you ask me to read your mind.

You’re just a troll.
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
I don’t actually have to provide you with the opportunity, you’ll whip out your own dick and stomp on it without any prompting.

Can you explain that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I don’t actually have to provide you with the opportunity, you’ll whip out your own dick and stomp on it without any prompting.

Can you explain that?

Like I said you’re just a troll.
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
So....another no, then? Just another example of your being unable to explain anything about your participation in this thread.

Hell of a pattern.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:16 am)Fierce Wrote: The username is certainly fitting, all those mental gymnastics.
I made that connection when I first saw the username and always wondered if any one else noticed it. Funny.

Gae and Acrobat have been arguing for four days straight now. Must be nice to not have to work or deal with people in the real world. To spend all of your conceivable time on AF. How fascinating.

lmao
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Age of Deconversion John 6IX Breezy 138 15253 November 28, 2019 at 2:09 pm
Last Post: downbeatplumb
  Some questions about heaven and hell (for any believer) Dystopia 26 6929 June 17, 2015 at 4:15 am
Last Post: robvalue
  To those who were once believers and are now atheists, some advice? *Deidre* 20 6160 March 19, 2014 at 7:55 pm
Last Post: *Deidre*
  QualiaSoup has some great YouTube videos for atheists and believers alike Mudhammam 0 1565 January 29, 2014 at 7:43 pm
Last Post: Mudhammam
  the Science of deconversion? yuriythebest 25 6768 February 22, 2013 at 4:30 am
Last Post: Mystical
  The Process of Deconversion FallentoReason 6 3085 January 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Coming to a mutual agreement and some rambling. Mystic 39 18068 July 19, 2012 at 9:49 am
Last Post: Epimethean
  Deconversion issues. Ziploc Surprise 19 7720 November 1, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Last Post: Ziploc Surprise



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)