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Spanking?
#81
RE: Spanking?
It;s probably harder to study for "did not walk in front of mack" than it is "kept eating daddies onioin bagels that he specifically put in the back and told them time and time again not to eat and I just get so hungry and whackwhackwhackwhackwhack", Rev.
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#82
RE: Spanking?
I was spanked and I was beaten black, blue, and bloody. By the time I graduated high school I had been given black eyes, a broken nose, been knocked unconscious, been kicked in the ribs, been dragged down the driveway by my hair...I could go on with gory details but won't.

I have three kids. My oldest was hard-headed and stubborn as all get out. No amount of talking, explaining, time outs, and all the other things you are supposed to do worked if she had her mind set. A couple examples from before she was even in school. After dozens of talks about the danger of the stove and that she should stay away from it so she wouldn't get hurt, she put her comb and brush on a burner and climbed onto a chair and turned it on starting a fire and setting off smoke alarms...my bad, I had to use the bathroom for two minutes.

Another day I spoke to her over and over again about not jumping on my bed. I tried to explain she could fall off and get hurt. She claimed to understand. Well, after doing it again, falling off and splitting her head open on the radiator to the point where she needed stitches, she finally understood and didn't jump on the bed any more. She might have responded to a spanking before we had to make a trip to the ER but we will never know. She abused herself to learn that lesson.

My middle child was a daredevil and not much was going to stop her. My youngest stopped certain behaviors if I raised my eyebrow at him.

There was the occasional pop on a well padded diapered rear end.

There were occasional pops on hands that reached one too many times for things that were hot or fragile and that had been warned about multiple times. It seemed a pop on the hand to get the message across that something could hurt them made more sense than allowing them to find out for themselves. Before anyone yelps about child proofing and watching them every moment...the only way to guard against every danger would be to put the child in a NERF suit and live in a padded room with nothing in it...nothing glass, nothing electric, no edges, no water, no anything. And sometimes you have to go to the damn bathroom, or another kid needs immediate attention and you have to look away for a second or two.

Every child was different. Every child had to be dealt with in a different way. Mine weren't beaten - I know beaten. I knew that wasn't going to be part of my method of child-rearing. But there were times that a quick pop with my hand...on their hand or bottom was the method employed. With three, I could probably count the number of times someone got popped on two hands. A raised eyebrow actually got the most attention out of all three when they were a little older.

I did leave a cart full of stuff in a store and apologized to the staff before I marched my three out to the car because I was not going to tell them one more time to stop fighting in the store. I only had to do that once.

I appreciate those who say they have an opinion, even a strong one, but also point out they aren't parents and haven't been put in the position of having to make a call on how to respond to an unacceptable action.
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#83
RE: Spanking?
I’m not sure why this is even a debate at this point:

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks...searchers/
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#84
RE: Spanking?
Because it's scientifically proven that if I win the debate, I possess the substantially larger tallywhacker!
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#85
RE: Spanking?
(November 7, 2019 at 6:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m not sure why this is even a debate at this point:

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks...searchers/
Linked to another meta-study in my first post in this thread:

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/184/12/1373
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#86
RE: Spanking?
(November 7, 2019 at 7:26 pm)no one Wrote: Because it's scientifically proven that if I win the debate, I possess the substantially larger tallywhacker!

We’ll seeing as some of us don’t have tallywhackers is that really a fair fight?
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#87
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#88
RE: Spanking?
(November 7, 2019 at 11:33 am)Athene Wrote:
(November 7, 2019 at 4:06 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:


Lol...I'm only opposed to spanking kids. 

Apparently, there are a few folks here who don't feel that's "good enough" and are adamant that I must additionally attach some sort of moral objectivism or absolutism to my stance in order to "be on the right side of AF history"....as if I give a fuck.

I refuse to do so because I'm of the belief that there indeed exists a moral gray area in regards to most any issue and I'm inclined to think that context is a important thing to consider in making individual determinations of "right" and "wrong".

So if my agreement that spanking children is wrong as a general principal isn't enough for these cats, I don't what to tell them other than to "Go find the nearest cactus", I guess.


Now, as far as the grown and sexy are concerned... Naughty 
I have no issue with adults spanking each other. It's none of my business.

Personally, I can take it or leave it. It makes for great fun sometimes, but I wouldn't cry if could never do it again.

Kids are psychologically soft; fresh; beating them or fighting with them can cause permanent scars, in my opinion parents should never use spanking or any other form of humiliation to punish the mistakes of the child. A fresh brain -like a child's brain- must be handled with extreme care. I prefer taking off their rights for a limited time like no TV, no videogames ...etc. It works.

As for adults..hmmmm some adults need to be punished lightly for being beautiful and hot. It's a scientific fact: "e=mc vagina".

You know what I mean: spanking; pinching; biting -with the teeth and also the lips- of adults might prove useful. It brings joy to both parties; and also helps the juice of both parties to come out..

Spanking adults can prove exciting if you know what I mean.

(November 7, 2019 at 6:28 pm)Shell B Wrote: I even reserved yelling for severe situations. It's not because I'm a saint of a parent. It's because I noticed that if I only yelled at him when I needed to, it worked better.

I couldn't spank a kid even if I had to. I pushed a kid once when I was babysitting. He was wielding a golf club, with which he had demolished all the windows on the first floor of the house. He came at me with it. I sent him flying. I was maybe 16. He was evil.

Humans are created with adapting skills; beat them as kids and they will develop natural resistance to beating, until you reach that stage of beating them but you find that they're smiling or simply ignoring you.

As they grow up they will become bullies to reflect the beating they receive on other kids -or even adults too-.
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#89
RE: Spanking?
(November 7, 2019 at 5:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: I disagree with spanking even on the level you're talking about, Gae, but I don't think that's severe enough to warrant actual opposition from me. Take one step over the line into abuse and I will fully smack a person in the head with a bat for hitting their kid, however. 

I don't think the kid would like that.
My dad beat the fuck out of me every day for years and years.
One day these two young dudes beat the fuck out of dad through the car window.
I remembered those dudes and a couple of years later I beat them both to pulps behind the pub.

I was worried that I'd be an abuser, like dad.
Well, I smacked her once in eight years, at the shopping centre.
I looked around to see if anyone else wanted a smack but there were no takers.

Anyway Shell, are you going to beat parents with a bat when you see their obese children?  :-) Just kidding.

Also, I've never understood what is sexy about spanking between adults.
It's just seems fucking stupid.
Of course I've had to play the part before because it seems like most women love that shit.
Does nothing for me.




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#90
RE: Spanking?
I'm reminded of a few biologists who took in wolf pups and tried to raise them as regular dogs in a documentary I saw years ago. While they were pups, it was easy, but once they reached adolescence they became unruly, aggressive, territorial and in all unmanageable by the biologists. They had to release them to other wolfs they had in their wolf park and familiarize them with other wolfs.

My point is that maybe the difference in raising kids, who tolerate and don't tolerate spanking is just in their biological makeup.
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