The Tower of Babel

[Abaddon_ire]

book:
meinkampf

chapter 10 the reason for the fall of the ecconomy

and volume 2

chapter 14 Hitler addresses: Lebensraum ("Living space")[edit]
In the chapter "Eastern Orientation or Eastern Policy", Hitler argued that the Germans needed Lebensraum in the East, a "historic destiny" that would properly nurture the German people.[15] Hitler believed that "the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race."[16]
In Mein Kampf Hitler openly stated the future German expansion in the East, foreshadowing Generalplan Ost:

in short germany as it sat back then could not complete it mission of (socialism/government projects and employment housing food and well fare for all of it's citizens) in it's current configuration. their tower/autobahn/big deal era government works projects had consumed whatever resources that were not being heavily taxed and the germans has to basically take from their wealthy neighbors/Jew run states and banks. As it was the oppression of the jews that was the root cause, keeping the 'good people of germany' from free health care, good jobs state gifted homes and a car in every drive!
Which is what I said would happen here. deplete all natural resources and then basic survival becomes fuel for the national survival and what they can not produce for themselves they will be forced to take from others.

Did you just refer to Mein Kampf as an exposition on why you believe what you believe about a fairy tale in magic book, about stacking mud bricks.... and how that relates to "quality chosen people"?

Jumping jesus on a pogo stick.

Yeah. We are in a far distant country now and it is not pretty. Autobahn's killed jebus and healthcare is bad and heavy state control is good and jews must die and...

WTF is this?

[Minimalist]

It's Dripshit losing his mind which happens whenever his imagined holy horseshit is under attack.

[Drich]

book:
meinkampf

chapter 10 the reason for the fall of the ecconomy

and volume 2

chapter 14 Hitler addresses: Lebensraum ("Living space")[edit]
In the chapter "Eastern Orientation or Eastern Policy", Hitler argued that the Germans needed Lebensraum in the East, a "historic destiny" that would properly nurture the German people.[15] Hitler believed that "the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race."[16]
In Mein Kampf Hitler openly stated the future German expansion in the East, foreshadowing Generalplan Ost:

in short germany as it sat back then could not complete it mission of (socialism/government projects and employment housing food and well fare for all of it's citizens) in it's current configuration. their tower/autobahn/big deal era government works projects had consumed whatever resources that were not being heavily taxed and the germans has to basically take from their wealthy neighbors/Jew run states and banks. As it was the oppression of the jews that was the root cause, keeping the 'good people of germany' from free health care, good jobs state gifted homes and a car in every drive!
Which is what I said would happen here. deplete all natural resources and then basic survival becomes fuel for the national survival and what they can not produce for themselves they will be forced to take from others.

Did you just refer to Mein Kampf as an exposition on why you believe what you believe about a fairy tale in magic book, about stacking mud bricks.... and how that relates to "quality chosen people"?

Jumping jesus on a pogo stick.

I referred to mein kampf because I already established a parallel between any society who's social government's projects (babble tower/Germany food health care Housing cars and roads) consume all available resources. and life of the empire depended on conquering their neighbors and so on.. 

which again is the core of my argument. this was true in all world conquerors. the people are united behind a common cause/cant afford to keep the cause and either the government fails or it seeks out 'resources' from the neighbors. true with rome, greece, egypt, syria the USA England and on and one and on. this is not something new. Germany just seems like a logical goto because like babble, it is the public project works is the cause or would have been the cause for mass expansion. and like God said if those people put their minds to it they would have been able to accomplish what they set out to do!

[Minimalist]

which again is the core of my argument.

And, is therefore, silly.  Egypt built pyramids for over a thousand years without breaking a sweat.  Ziggurats were built on the flat plains of Mesopotamia the same way xhristards build cathedral after cathedral to their phony god.  They did not wreck their own society doing it.

[Pat Mustard]

Ask Job from the bible or those nine people that Dylan Roof shot down in that church in South Carolina, they'll tell you bad things happen to people who obey god, too. There's no statistically significant difference in what happens to people who obey god and those who don't.

To begin with, couple of minor corrections.

Firstly, because Job stuck with God, his story finished up very happy indeed “the Lord restored his fortunes and gave him twice as much as he had before...The Lord blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the former part”.

Secondly, on your statistical claim, 
a) religious people live about 4 years longer than their atheist/agnostic peers.  Link 
b) religious people tend to be happier. Link

We may be naïve and deluded, but we're happier and we get to annoy the pensions people more.



However none of that is relevant to the big problem- you've rather misunderstood what I said. To suggest a strong correlation between following God and being fortunate would be obvious nonsense. I did think my explaining skills were adequate, but since people are misreading on an ongoing basis it appears not. So, let's try again:

'Adam' ate at the wrong restaurant and it went badly. Noah obeyed God in building an Ikea ark, and it went well for him. Israel, depending on how well it behaved, kept going through a cycle of sin/exile/forgiveness/restoration.

Following the return from Babylonian exile, it was expected that the Kingdom would be restored to Israel. But along comes Jesus who says, “The Kingdom is no longer about the Jewish people occupying a bit of land, it's going global. This is the new way of obeying God. Follow me, and be part of the Kingdom; you get to be resurrected into a fully functional creation. Don't follow me, and you won't.”


That's what I mean by obeying God ending well, disobeying God not ending well.

So basicly the moral of Job is "be an amoral sociopath and everything will work out ok". For example yhwh is the amoral sociopath who forced satan into destroying Job's life and killing his family for a bet. Secondly the onlyway Job's coming out as described in the bible, ie without crippling ptsd and other psychological traumas, is if he was also an amoral psychopath.

The bible is not a good place to be looking if you want evidence of god's goodness, even the better bits. Take jesus, he "saves" the world by pretending to be dead for three days, fucking off back to heaven and leaving the world exactly in the same "fallen" state he found it.

[fromdownunder]

The bible is not a good place to be looking if you want evidence of god's goodness, even the better bits. Take jesus, he "saves" the world by pretending to be dead for three days, one and one half days fucking off back to heaven and leaving the world exactly in the same "fallen" state he found it.

Fixed it for you.

Norm

[Dundee]

Short answer to a lengthy OP. Because it's all man made excrement.

I agree!

The story of the tower of Bable is one of the most stupid stories in the Bible.

It is rubbish.