Official live update of spread of COVID19

[Mermaid]

Yeah because people so need to crowd Costco endangering people to get a freaking carpet.Maybe they could use it to wrap the body of the senior citizen their reckless consumerism killed .

They're not crowding Costco or Walmart because already sets limits of how many people can enter the store at a time.
How much damage do you think would ultimately be done in "flattening the curve" if someone also decides to get a bag of fertilizer or vegetable seeds while picking up their Totino's pizza rolls? Speaking of which--do Totino's pizza rolls really count as food? 
What about Sody-pop?

Perhaps Dear Leader should determine precisely what food items are "essential" as well...

Whitrmer is a fucking joke. Citizens would be wise to slap her ridiculous overreach down now, lest she really gets ahead of herself and turns Michigan into a goddamned police state.

Yes, so let's form giant, armed angry mobs to give her what for.

[The Architect Of Fate]

They're not crowding Costco or Walmart because already sets limits of how many people can enter the store at a time.
How much damage do you think would ultimately be done in "flattening the curve" if someone also decides to get a bag of fertilizer or vegetable seeds while picking up their Totino's pizza rolls? Speaking of which--do Totino's pizza rolls really count as food? 
What about Sody-pop?

Perhaps Dear Leader should determine precisely what food items are "essential" as well...

Whitrmer is a fucking joke. Citizens would be wise to slap her ridiculous overreach down now, lest she really gets ahead of herself and turns Michigan into a goddamned police state.

Yes, so let's form giant, armed angry mobs to give her what for.

Indeed riot in the name of fertilizer

[Athene]

Vaccine's a year away, at least. 
Surely you aren't thinking that people are supposed to stay out of work for that long do you?

Well they sure as hell don't want you returning while the virus is still on the lamb

The effects of long-term isolation and people being unable to work and feed their families will lead to tremendous devastation as well. 
IMO, maintaining stay-at-home/shelter-in-place orders for 12-18 months--or potentially even much, much longer--would be unreasonable considering that most people infected with COVID-19 will have mild symptoms and not become critically ill as a result of the virus. Additionally, everyone is not going to be lining up to take a new, barely-tested vaccine--mandate or not, regardless of what Bill Gates says.

At some point, much of the onus of prevention may have to fall on those who are at highest risk and/or those who provide care for them.

[Mermaid]

Well they sure as hell don't want you returning while the virus is still on the lamb

The effects of long-term isolation and people being unable to work and feed their families will lead to tremendous devastation as well. 
IMO, maintaining stay-at-home/shelter-in-place orders for 12-18 months--or potentially even much, much longer--would be unreasonable considering that most people infected with COVID-19 will have mild symptoms and not become critically ill as a result of the virus. Additionally, everyone is not going to be lining up to take a new, barely-tested vaccine--mandate or not, regardless of what Bill Gates says.

At some point, much of the onus of prevention may have to fall on those who are at highest risk and/or those who provide care for them.

People are dying. A lot of people. I do not understand why this is so hard for people to understand. I do not understand why people are so reluctant to believe the news, but they will believe all the cockamamie conspiracy theories on the interwebs. But I suspect you will find out soon enough. 
Perhaps it has a lot to do with the president who seems to be egging people on to protest the orders?

What a strange age we live in.

I am going to line up to get a vaccine. I am not alone because there are a lot of us who still believe in science. 
Whitmer is doing exactly what she needs to do, it is the ONLY thing to do, and I am proud to have voted for her.

[Brian37]

Well they sure as hell don't want you returning while the virus is still on the lamb

The effects of long-term isolation and people being unable to work and feed their families will lead to tremendous devastation as well. 
IMO, maintaining stay-at-home/shelter-in-place orders for 12-18 months--or potentially even much, much longer--would be unreasonable considering that most people infected with COVID-19 will have mild symptoms and not become critically ill as a result of the virus. Additionally, everyone is not going to be lining up to take a new, barely-tested vaccine--mandate or not, regardless of what Bill Gates says.

At some point, much of the onus of prevention may have to fall on those who are at highest risk and/or those who provide care for them.

No, sorry, huge difference between plowing ahead regardless of warnings, and sheltering out of safety. 

And this particular virus isn't "risk" aimed. Perfectly healthy out of risk range people have died from it. 

https://time.com/5823124/sailor-dies-cor...dentified/

[The Architect Of Fate]

Well they sure as hell don't want you returning while the virus is still on the lamb

The effects of long-term isolation and people being unable to work and feed their families will lead to tremendous devastation as well. 
IMO, maintaining stay-at-home/shelter-in-place orders for 12-18 months--or potentially even much, much longer--would be unreasonable considering that most people infected with COVID-19 will have mild symptoms and not become critically ill as a result of the virus. Additionally, everyone is not going to be lining up to take a new, barely-tested vaccine--mandate or not, regardless of what Bill Gates says.

At some point, much of the onus of prevention may have to fall on those who are at highest risk and/or those who provide care for them.

No 

1. It doesn't matter how much it economically hurts .It's how this has to go 

2. Vaccine or no this is how it has to go 

3. And no the onus is on everyone till this ends

[Athene]

They're not crowding Costco or Walmart because already sets limits of how many people can enter the store at a time.
How much damage do you think would ultimately be done in "flattening the curve" if someone also decides to get a bag of fertilizer or vegetable seeds while picking up their Totino's pizza rolls? Speaking of which--do Totino's pizza rolls really count as food? 
What about Sody-pop?

Perhaps Dear Leader should determine precisely what food items are "essential" as well...

Whitrmer is a fucking joke. Citizens would be wise to slap her ridiculous overreach down now, lest she really gets ahead of herself and turns Michigan into a goddamned police state.

1.Which is only because their are rules .So why not more ?

2.More then if they just got the food (and yes it's food by definition )

3.Slippery slope fallacy 

4.Yes yes you don't like her.That  isn't an argument.

So overall no real objections here just pouting

You can call slippery-slope fallacy if you like, but to my mind, this isn't about debate decorum. It's about drawing a fucking line in the sand.

Truth of the matter is, governments DO use crises such as these to incrementally implement fuckshit they wouldn't dare under normal circumstances, because ordinarily people would have no problem recognizing it as tyranny.

So in such cases, yeah--I think it's a good idea for such overreach to be confronted before it gets out of hand.

[The Architect Of Fate]

1.Which is only because their are rules .So why not more ?

2.More then if they just got the food (and yes it's food by definition )

3.Slippery slope fallacy 

4.Yes yes you don't like her.That  isn't an argument.

So overall no real objections here just pouting

You can call slippery-slope fallacy if you like, but to my mind, this isn't about debate decorum. It's about drawing a fucking line in the sand.

Truth of the matter is, governments DO use crises such as these to incrementally implement fuckshit they wouldn't dare under normal circumstances, because ordinarily people would have no problem recognizing it as tyranny.

So in such cases, yeah--I think it's a good idea for such overreach to be confronted before it gets out of hand.

1. I call i so because it is .And worst still it's an arbitrary one 

2.Yes but that's not freaking happening .So put away your Alex Jones brand tinfoil hat .

3.Accept it's not overreach and your kind aren't confronting it .Half of you are just sulking .The other half are waving around guns .

[Athene]

Yes, so let's form giant, armed angry mobs to give her what for.

I think a little public outcry and civil disobedience should be sufficient enough at this juncture...lol

[The Architect Of Fate]

I think a little public outcry and civil disobedience should be sufficient enough at this juncture...lol

More like entitled whining and waving around guns