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Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
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RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
(October 24, 2011 at 5:39 am)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Who else thinks fibromyalgia if fucking horrible? It sucks balls.

Well, if it is horrible, then don't listen to that video. A bit flummoxed as to why you'd call something that is horrible a 'fibromyalgia'.
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#32
RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
I love you, Syna, but know that I can find you and I have knives Heart

Though I might start a trend, given how fucking terrible fibromyalgia is. It'll be the new 'worst thing ever'. At least she's better off than her mother. Undecided Smile Undecided
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(October 24, 2011 at 5:39 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: I love you, Syna, but know that I can find you and I have knives Heart

I have a brain. It's infinitely more devious when paired with weaponry.
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#34
RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
(October 23, 2011 at 12:58 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I am willing to let capitalism exist, but under these conditions:

#1 - The IMMEDIATE abolishment of usury and the clearing of all past usury on all current contracts.
#2 - The abolishment of all tax loopholes for those who play and trade on the stock market.
#3 - The banning of Derivative stocks and contracts.

Thats a good start.

Let me add to your list, just to show how serious I am about the "regulated" part of regulated capitalism.

1. By your #1, do you mean the predatory payday lenders? Much greater regulation needs to be enacted on this industry.

2. Adjusting the top tax rates so the top 1% pays a rate that is proportionate to the amount of wealth in the country they own. "Those that own should pay to maintain" will be the slogan. If the top 1% owns 40% of the wealth, they should be paying 40% of the tax revenue.

3. Ban all political advertisement. Replace Madison Avenue soundbytes with weekly debates. "You have free speech but you can't buy more" is the slogan I'd use. Ideas should replace money as the means by which politicians are elected.

4. Clarify in the law, by amendment if necessary, that corporations are NOT people. Corporate citizenship should be recognized for what it is, an accounting tool that is used for tax purposes, asset ownership and responsibility for financial liabilities. The Bill of Rights and other guarantees of rights for American citizens apply only to flesh-and-blood human beings.

5. Reinstate Glass-Stigeal.

6. "Too big to fail" should mean "too big to exist". Bank monopolies should be broken up until each could be allowed to fail without crashing the whole economy. Individual holders of bank accounts will still be protected by FDIC in the event of a bank failure.

7. National health care or "Medicare for all". Private business can't take care of people's health because doing so costs money and therefore hurts their bottom line. Kicking sick people off the roles helps their bottom line. Remember what I said about getting what you reward? This is why the government, not private for-profit business, must be in charge of health care.

8. Abolish the cap on Social Security taxes.

9. Cut defense spending in half. We don't need a Cold War military force.

10. Investigate and prosecute any fraud or malfeasance during the meltdown of 2008.
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RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
Quote:Let me add to your list, just to show how serious I am about the "regulated" part of regulated capitalism.
Absolutely Paladin. I have mucho respect for you and your previous posts.
Quote:1. By your #1, do you mean the predatory payday lenders? Much greater regulation needs to be enacted on this industry.
I mean complete across the board ban of ALL usury...completely. i am aware of how unpopular that idea is.
Quote:2. Adjusting the top tax rates so the top 1% pays a rate that is proportionate to the amount of wealth in the country they own. "Those that own should pay to maintain" will be the slogan. If the top 1% owns 40% of the wealth, they should be paying 40% of the tax revenue
Actually I am opposed to money in general. I want money abolished. I am aware of how unpopular that idea is. No money equals no taxes, equals no tax loopholes.
Quote:3. Ban all political advertisement. Replace Madison Avenue soundbytes with weekly debates. "You have free speech but you can't buy more" is the slogan I'd use. Ideas should replace money as the means by which politicians are elected.
I would argue that we dont need politicians, much less their advertisements. I am aware of how unpopular that idea is.
Quote:4. Clarify in the law, by amendment if necessary, that corporations are NOT people. Corporate citizenship should be recognized for what it is, an accounting tool that is used for tax purposes, asset ownership and responsibility for financial liabilities. The Bill of Rights and other guarantees of rights for American citizens apply only to flesh-and-blood human beings.
None of that would be necessary if money no longer existed. I would argue that every human on this planet owns an equal share of everything. I am aware of how upopular that idea is.
Quote:5. Reinstate Glass-Stigeal.
Im willing to compromise on that. but it will never happen. The Banks and corporations want to own everything. They are money making machines that demand to have the same freedoms as a citizen. If every human equally owned a share of it, then that would not be a problem.
Quote:6. "Too big to fail" should mean "too big to exist". Bank monopolies should be broken up until each could be allowed to fail without crashing the whole economy. Individual holders of bank accounts will still be protected by FDIC in the event of a bank failure.
why have money and not allow people to be fucked? Why support capitalism but make rules against capitalism? I used to be of this mentality. Now I just oppose capitalism. "too big to fail" is the end results of capitalism.
Quote:7. National health care or "Medicare for all". Private business can't take care of people's health because doing so costs money and therefore hurts their bottom line. Kicking sick people off the roles helps their bottom line. Remember what I said about getting what you reward? This is why the government, not private for-profit business, must be in charge of health care.
Im all for nationalised healthcare. We as a society should take care of each other. but, this is a capitalist society, which means its okay for people to make mad money on the illness of others. This is the results of capitalism, and why i now oppose it.
Quote:8. Abolish the cap on Social Security taxes.
It doesnt matter. Private businesses will find a way to ruin the system and eventually get their hands on all of the money. I will not be able to draw money from the fund, even though i have put into the system my entire life. It was important to the capitalists that my money be taken and used to beef up their corporate bonuses. Remember, corporations are the workers. They are the winners. Why? Because in capitalism, he who has the most cash wins!
Quote:9. Cut defense spending in half. We don't need a Cold War military force.
Even suggesting something like that puts people in danger of assassination. most of the top 1% have their profits tied directly into the millitary industry. to suggest such means they will lose money. And when it comes to their money or your life...well...LOL...guess which one is expendable?
Quote:10. Investigate and prosecute any fraud or malfeasance during the meltdown of 2008.
Obama already brushed it under the rug. The fucked up thing is that i actually campaigned for Obama to get voted. Now i dont give a damn about him.
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#36
RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
Quote:Now i dont give a damn about him.


Wait till you see what your other choice is going to be.
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RE: Police become violent to OW in Melbourne, Aust.
(October 25, 2011 at 1:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Now i dont give a damn about him.


Wait till you see what your other choice is going to be.

Im sure regardless the choices will not be much. I grow tired of voting for the least offensive candidate.
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