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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:10 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 1:54 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 1:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Like a dead body, or a video, or the testimony of the perpetrators?
Hey sorry if I am the bad guy for not jumping on the lynch mob train.
I kind of liked the old system - innocent till proven guilty - but these instant gratification punks think justice is better served by comparing any new case by the cases that came before.....
If one white guy was found guilty of shooting a black guy - then all white guys should be assumed guilty until proven otherwise....
It worked a little different when I was a kid - but we called it racism... Pre-judging what someone would do based on the color of their skin....
I guess it's back in fashion...
From what I can tell. There was a robbery in their area. They heard about it, got their guns and went out driving looking for the fella. Saw an unarmed black man running and shot him. This is called doing a "Liam Neeson".
They weren't even arrested at the time for what certainly looks like murder.
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:15 pm
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(May 8, 2020 at 2:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 1:54 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Hey sorry if I am the bad guy for not jumping on the lynch mob train.
I kind of liked the old system - innocent till proven guilty - but these instant gratification punks think justice is better served by comparing any new case by the cases that came before.....
If one white guy was found guilty of shooting a black guy - then all white guys should be assumed guilty until proven otherwise....
It worked a little different when I was a kid - but we called it racism... Pre-judging what someone would do based on the color of their skin....
I guess it's back in fashion...
From what I can tell. There was a robbery in their area. They heard about it, got their guns and went out driving looking for the fella. Saw an unarmed black man running and shot him. This is called doing a "Liam Neeson".
They weren't even arrested at the time for what certainly looks like murder.
And you based this account from what evidence?
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:21 pm
The dead body, the video of their altercation, and their own testimony.
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:23 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 12:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It's funny how these armchair commandos KNOW all the facts in the case from 30 seconds of jerky half focused video gleaned from some internet website...
White crackerass motherfucker shot a black man - he MUST be guilty of MURDER!!!!!!!
Funny how that works.
Me?
I don't KNOW a fucking thing about this case......
Show me evidence. Not.from other cases. From THIS case.
This post dispels any remaining doubt that you are a complete and utter prick.
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:31 pm
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(May 8, 2020 at 2:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The dead body, the video of their altercation, and their own testimony. and you have that all in your possession?
How about - You saw it on the internet and you just KNOW what happened?
.....
I am not claiming anyone's innocence or guilt. I don't have any real evidence. Neither do you.
And - if these guys are acquitted (unlikely - but there may be mitigating conditions we don't know) people like Brian will continue to point at these guys - screaming "MURDERER!!!"...
After all - he is doing exactly that to George Zimmerman - who was acquitted.
(May 8, 2020 at 2:23 pm)Succubus#2 Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 12:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It's funny how these armchair commandos KNOW all the facts in the case from 30 seconds of jerky half focused video gleaned from some internet website...
White crackerass motherfucker shot a black man - he MUST be guilty of MURDER!!!!!!!
Funny how that works.
Me?
I don't KNOW a fucking thing about this case......
Show me evidence. Not.from other cases. From THIS case.
This post dispels any remaining doubt that you are a complete and utter prick.
Yeah - people who demand a trial by jury are such moral failures......
Only by the mob can one be just....
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 2:46 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 12:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It's funny how these armchair commandos KNOW all the facts in the case from 30 seconds of jerky half focused video gleaned from some internet website...
White crackerass motherfucker shot a black man - he MUST be guilty of MURDER!!!!!!!
Funny how that works.
Me?
I don't KNOW a fucking thing about this case......
Show me evidence. Not.from other cases. From THIS case.
Hey asshole, I AM WHITE!
What gives anyone the fucking right to chase someone down who isn't armed and shot them?
The "evidence" aspect of our society is the OPPOSITE, presumption of innocence. It isn't up to the black guy, or or Mexican to prove they didn't do it on the spot without a trial. It is up to LAW enforcement, to show up, AND NOT SHOOT FIRST, but asses, then turn their findings over to a court.
This guy died, without a trial, regardless of guilt or innocence.
Your bullshit attitude is that the guy is guilty before arrest. Is that what you want for yourslelf?
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 3:02 pm
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(May 8, 2020 at 2:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 12:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It's funny how these armchair commandos KNOW all the facts in the case from 30 seconds of jerky half focused video gleaned from some internet website...
White crackerass motherfucker shot a black man - he MUST be guilty of MURDER!!!!!!!
Funny how that works.
Me?
I don't KNOW a fucking thing about this case......
Show me evidence. Not.from other cases. From THIS case.
Hey asshole, I AM WHITE!
What gives anyone the fucking right to chase someone down who isn't armed and shot them?
The "evidence" aspect of our society is the OPPOSITE, presumption of innocence. It isn't up to the black guy, or or Mexican to prove they didn't do it on the spot without a trial. It is up to LAW enforcement, to show up, AND NOT SHOOT FIRST, but asses, then turn their findings over to a court.
This guy died, without a trial, regardless of guilt or innocence.
Your bullshit attitude is that the guy is guilty before arrest. Is that what you want for yourslelf? It's all about race to you.
In OP - you made a marked point of saying "unarmed black man"....
Would "unarmed man" not make the level of desired emotinal pandering you intended?
And why your screaming "I'm WHITE". ? Who gives a swut what color you are? As if being one color or another makes you pure at heart?
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 3:08 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 2:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: From what I can tell. There was a robbery in their area. They heard about it, got their guns and went out driving looking for the fella. Saw an unarmed black man running and shot him. This is called doing a "Liam Neeson".
They weren't even arrested at the time for what certainly looks like murder.
The fact that Neeson figured out that was a horrible thing that shouldn't happen before actually having a chance to do it aside, there really wasn't much to that burglary narrative. The only known burglaries in that neighbourhood around that time were the theft of $2500 in fishing gear a month prior, and the theft of a 9mm that one of them had left in their unlocked car. There were reports of a trespasser at another house, but that guy was light-skinned and had tattoos on his arms and Ahmaud was darker-shaded and didn't have tattoos. Obviously an inexcusable oversight, but frankly within character for shit like this. I don't remember which book exactly, but I remember that Malcolm Gladwell once talked about an incident where he was profiled by cops in I think New York City, and it turned out that literally the only thing that Malcolm and the suspect had in common was black skin, and I'm sure that the perp was a different shade of black than Malcolm.
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 4:05 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 2:31 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 2:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The dead body, the video of their altercation, and their own testimony. and you have that all in your possession?
How about - You saw it on the internet and you just KNOW what happened?
.....
I am not claiming anyone's innocence or guilt. I don't have any real evidence. Neither do you.
And - if these guys are acquitted (unlikely - but there may be mitigating conditions we don't know) people like Brian will continue to point at these guys - screaming "MURDERER!!!"...
After all - he is doing exactly that to George Zimmerman - who was acquitted.
He was lynched. Chased down by a truck and then held at gunpoint. He fought for his life, and lost his life. If they're acquitted...and there's a chance they will be, it would likely be for novel interpretations of the law which have already been offered in their defense.
McMichael was a former cop who had worked in the brunswick prosecutors office, so she had to recuse herself..then the next prosecutor had to recuse himself because his son worked for the brunswick da. Before leaving the case, he argued the following...the prosecutor....argued the following...
Quote:It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael, and Bryan William were following, in hot pursuit, a burglary suspect with solid first hand probable cause, in their neighborhood, and asking/ telling him to stop. It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived. Under Georgia Law this is perfectly legal.
Another cop frightened for his life, imagine that.
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RE: Trevon Revisited again, unfortunately...
May 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 4:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 2:31 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: and you have that all in your possession?
How about - You saw it on the internet and you just KNOW what happened?
.....
I am not claiming anyone's innocence or guilt. I don't have any real evidence. Neither do you.
And - if these guys are acquitted (unlikely - but there may be mitigating conditions we don't know) people like Brian will continue to point at these guys - screaming "MURDERER!!!"...
After all - he is doing exactly that to George Zimmerman - who was acquitted.
He was lynched. Chased down by a truck and then held at gunpoint. He fought for his life, and lost his life. If they're acquitted...and there's a chance they will be, it would likely be for novel interpretations of the law which have already been offered in their defense.
McMichael was a former cop who had worked in the brunswick prosecutors office, so she had to recuse herself..then the next prosecutor had to recuse himself because his son worked for the brunswick da. Before leaving the case, he argued the following...the prosecutor....argued the following...
Quote:It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael, and Bryan William were following, in hot pursuit, a burglary suspect with solid first hand probable cause, in their neighborhood, and asking/ telling him to stop. It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived. Under Georgia Law this is perfectly legal.
Another cop frightened for his life, imagine that.
Sounds like you were there...
Are you the person who took the video?
If not - how do you know you are reporting facts?
Shit camera technique BTW....
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