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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Apparently the question mark is a new invention among conservatives and some haven't quite gotten a handle on the use of this newfangled thing.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 2:06 pm
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(December 30, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Lawz Wrote: (December 29, 2020 at 5:41 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: Free to the public...In red is the really important part for the bar you have set.
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/vie...t=articles
Much more comprehensive if you have a springer or jstor account to read the whole thing.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23367476?seq=1 OK, so the "10% longer sentences" disparity exists, which is a small effect, and I'll offer a non-racist explanation for it, especially bearing my ingenious and profoundly veracious new signature in mind. White looking defendants are more likely to be able to afford private lawyers who are less likely to acquiesce to a harsh "minimum sentence" charge than a court appointed lawyer making little more than minimum wage and struggling under a prodigious workload.
Just to clarify...and we can go down this road of adhoc explanation after adhoc explanation if you want...
In the context of what would evidence of racism, systemic or otherwise look like, you asked for evidence that accounted for a specific set of confounding variables.
That evidence was provided
And now we are moving the goal posts. I'm wondering if as I keep supplying you with more and more evidence account for more and more confounding variables if we won't find ourselves in a "missing link" fallacy? Also...I would call what you just described as a non racist example of why it might be the case, an example of systemic racism.
(December 29, 2020 at 6:41 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: Basically all I am asking for here, is if regardless of the other possible reasons you could come up with, does the highlighted portion of your post seem problematic/racist to you?
People who fit the appearance of criminals are more likely to get "pulled over" - really, that is all. It's unfortunate "per capita, far more criminals are black looking males than any other demographic" has a "racial" component which pings oversensitive wokey woke "Racism!" fee fees in this day and age but, well, it can't be helped I guess, baring some drastic increase in the knowledge and wisdom of genpop...fat chance I guess, especially in the states...Donald Trump etc ad inf.
Post to the initial quote in red above...
To the second quote...
Do you think your 15/40(or 13/50) description of crime statistics is a relatively accurate reflection of the bolded portion?
Specifically...
Do you think the proportion of people in a group that are charged with a crime is comparable to the proportion of people within that group that commits crime?
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 2:07 pm
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(December 30, 2020 at 2:02 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Apparently the question mark is a new invention among conservatives and some haven't quite gotten a handle on the use of this newfangled thing. ![Coffee Coffee](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/coffee.gif)
I've never been called a conservative before in my whole life. HINT - I'm not.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 2:09 pm
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(December 30, 2020 at 2:07 pm)Lawz Wrote: (December 30, 2020 at 2:02 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Apparently the question mark is a new invention among conservatives and some haven't quite gotten a handle on the use of this newfangled thing. ![Coffee Coffee](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/coffee.gif)
I've never been called a conservative before in my whole life. HINT - I'm not.
My apologies. My bad.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 2:13 pm
(December 30, 2020 at 1:55 pm)Lawz Wrote: (December 30, 2020 at 1:34 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Backpedal faster you racist ass.
I haven't backpedalledd one inch, liar. And, no, YOU'RE a racist.
(December 30, 2020 at 1:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: So... black=criminal? You wouldn't be one of them, oh, what's the word I'm thinking of? Give me a minute. It'll come to me.
Did I write that? No...but keep putting words in my mouth if you like All I've done is explain why racial profiling sometimes happens without resorting to "the police are filthy racists!" hysterical conclusion jumping. For all the thanks I get ![Goodnight Goodnight](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/goodnight.gif)
(December 30, 2020 at 1:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yes, the spelling thing was pretty irrelevant. I’m more concerned with the fact that the way you worded that post was implicitly racist - not your views or conclusions (which are problematic, to say the least), but the language you’ve chosen to use.
Can you point to any posts of mine where I’ve said the people of Norn Iron are scum? I’ve been pretty clear that I feel that way about the paras (both sides), but I don’t think I’ve ever extended it to the whole population. Some of my best friends are from NI, like my mother. My father. Me.
Boru
Unfortunately the forum search function is...inadequate, but my memory is good.
You are such a pitiful thing. Whiny and pitiful and a racist trying to hide it. You aren't the only racist here...but you are one of the most obvious.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 3:08 pm
When I lose my phone, I begin a process of trying to visualize the last time I saw it. What did I use it for? What did it say? Where and when was that?
Chick skipped that and went full on Little Rock Central. People are acting more and more irrationally with Trump and Covid. Just look at the idiot outsider in this thread trying to tell me most white people here aren't racist as shit. Now that's fucking crazy.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 3:27 pm
I'm still waiting for some details on what exactly makes up "criminal appearance".
Other than being in jail/prison garb...I want to know what to watch for.
But LAWZ isn't going to be tricked into saying what he means so I guess I'm just left wondering.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 3:39 pm
(December 30, 2020 at 3:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I'm still waiting for some details on what exactly makes up "criminal appearance".
Other than being in jail/prison garb...I want to know what to watch for.
But LAWZ isn't going to be tricked into saying what he means so I guess I'm just left wondering.
Bring Lawz with you, and if you see him do this, you've hit the jackpot.
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 3:49 pm
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hmmmm...thinking...
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RE: More entitled white woman problems.
December 30, 2020 at 3:50 pm
(December 30, 2020 at 3:39 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (December 30, 2020 at 3:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I'm still waiting for some details on what exactly makes up "criminal appearance".
Other than being in jail/prison garb...I want to know what to watch for.
But LAWZ isn't going to be tricked into saying what he means so I guess I'm just left wondering.
Bring Lawz with you, and if you see him do this, you've hit the jackpot.
![[Image: triggered.gif]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zpim92qd5azxq26/triggered.gif)
Thanks for the suggestion but I think across the pond is just about far enough away from me.
My next question, if I ever get an answer to the first, is how do you spot crazy - as in potentially criminally crazy? Of course we'll never get that far.
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