What does "Separation of Church and State" mean?

[The Architect Of Fate]

It doesn't explicitly be in the constitution to clearly be implied in it. As for the OP question, it simply reduces religion to a private matter.

[onlinebiker]

"Separation of Church and State" is not in the US Constitutuon.

It comes from a letter in 1802 from Thomas Jefferson.


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NO KIDDING!

Show me where I claimed it was. I meant that in relationship to the SCOTUS cases in relationship as to how the judges squared that with the First Amendment. Sorry if you misunderstood my post.  

The word "clause" is also not physically written in the First Amendment in ink either. Jefferson's idea of "Separation of Church and State" and "establishment clause" were still argued in court cases referring to the First Amendment.

Your second sentence of the OP implies that you believe the phrase " Seperation of Church and State is in the First Ammendment.


Piss poor sentence construction.

[Brian37]

NO KIDDING!

Show me where I claimed it was. I meant that in relationship to the SCOTUS cases in relationship as to how the judges squared that with the First Amendment. Sorry if you misunderstood my post.  

The word "clause" is also not physically written in the First Amendment in ink either. Jefferson's idea of "Separation of Church and State" and "establishment clause" were still argued in court cases referring to the First Amendment.

Your second sentence of the OP implies that you believe the phrase " Seperation of Church and State is in the First Ammendment.


Piss poor sentence construction.

Your misunderstanding does not constitute an emergency on my part. 

I am quite aware and have been for a long time that "Separation of Church and State" are not words in the First Amendment. Those words, like you said came from Jefferson, and more specifically, coincides with the concept of his "wall" analogy in his letter to the Danbury Baptists.

https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html <--- he uses both "wall" and "Separation of Church and State" in that letter.

I have been aware of this letter and it's contents for almost 20 years. Long before I even joined this website. 

I am also aware of other letters and quotes of his, such as his famous "Question with boldness even the existence of a God."

You assumed on your own that I was implying those words were in the First Amendment. I think I made it perfectly clear in my OP that I was referring to his idea being argued in court cases as his interpretation of what the First Amendment means. Even the letter I quoted in the link says just that, what his interpretation was.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

NO KIDDING!

Show me where I claimed it was. I meant that in relationship to the SCOTUS cases in relationship as to how the judges squared that with the First Amendment. Sorry if you misunderstood my post.  

The word "clause" is also not physically written in the First Amendment in ink either. Jefferson's idea of "Separation of Church and State" and "establishment clause" were still argued in court cases referring to the First Amendment.

Your second sentence of the OP implies that you believe the phrase " Seperation of Church and State is in the First Ammendment.


Piss poor sentence construction.

Yeah, it kinda was. His general point was fair, though. ‘...make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof’ is a pretty reasonable approximation of the spirit behind separating church and state.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

The concept of church and state is simply that the government "or state" can't tell the people what religion they have to follow. Many settlers came to the colonies to be able to practice the religion of their choice.

Of course large numbers of like-minded people want to push their ideas onto others be it religiously or politically. There has always been, and will always be, some spillover from one to other.

What we try to stop is the making of laws based on religious beliefs.

It's not rocket surgery.

[Gwaithmir]

The idea of a wall of separation between church and state gained constitutional status as a result of the case of Reynolds vs. The United States, 1878. To wit, Reynolds v. United States - Wikipedia

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"The power to tax is the power to destroy" said the paranoid godbotherers.

[Silver]

Separation of Church and State

Establishment Clause

Wikipedia

[no one]

At first it was a trial separation, but old churchy is clingy. Churchy is of the mind that "If I can't have you, nobody will".

Even though there is an order of protection against good old churchy, their deep pockets prevents any real justice.

In situations such as this, it's only the children that suffer.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

"The power to tax is the power to destroy" said the paranoid godbotherers.

Mighty hard to peg John Marshall as a godbotherer.

Boru