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Understanding transgenderism.
#41
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
(April 28, 2021 at 10:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Gender is cultural, not biological.  It's a floating variable that contains no specific instructions.  It's not firmware, or any other software.  It's certainly not hardware.  It's certainly not a heritable aspect of a machines architecture.

It's a construct.  Manufactured.  An idea or theory containing multiple various conceptual elements, typically considered to be subject, not empirical.

Gender roles in a society is very likely largely cultural, although it is by no means clear whether there are deeper rooted cognitive or behavioral differences which shape in subtle ways gender roles societies evolve.    If there are, then gender roles are not exclusively cultural.   individual identification with one gender rather than another is also by no means clearly driven mainly by social gender roles.
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#42
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Yes, gender and gender roles are exclusively cultural. There's no way around this as every bit of data we have says this and only this.

Being gendered - the feeling that you're a thing that fits in society somewhere along those lines, whatever they happen to be, however many genders™ there are....that might be biological in the sense you're looking for - and in the terms of our machine analogy that would be a candidate for machine code, not software or hardware.

Every heritable anything would be. Machines don't inherit software or hardware, they do inherit the language specific to their construction - the thing they use to operate the hardware, the thing that our software depends on. As we seemed to notice earlier on, it's a stretched analogy from the outset.
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#43
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
uIt will be interesting to see what social data that says “only this” would look like.


If gender is in deed or cultural, then that makes it substantially more acceptable for a culture to condition itself end it define transgenderism as a unacceptable deviance.
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#44
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Let wonder lead you to knowledge. There's absolutely no doubt that gender and gender roles are constructed.

You aren't one or the other at birth based on the presence of peener or any other thing, you don't even know what they are at birth - and no amount of people telling you otherwise will change your mind about what you believe to be a description of your internal states.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#45
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Gender exists in a continuum with biological sex. It exists as a real part of person's psyche before extending out to form any cultural aggregate. Gender is individualistic, it is behavioral, it is performative, and it is an identity. Terms like gender roles exist to describe the cultural manifestations of gender, which emerge out of our individualistic behaviors.

To assume there are no biological components of gender is to misunderstand how the brain works. That every psychological trait is heritable is the first law of behavioral genetics. Moreover, the developmental process by which bodies become masculinized or feminized, through hormones such as testosterone, invoke a form of biological genderization. (Anytime you hear the words masculine or feminine you've crossed over into the territory of gender.) In other words, gender takes the baton to finish the race that sex started. And it is this biological genderization that many transsexuals are after. They don't just want to be reassigned to female, they want to transition to a woman. They are chasing after a feminine body, not just a female body.

That's not a sentiment unique to transgender. Many of us wish we looked more masculine or feminine than we already do. We might have been born males, but we still chase after a more manly body. That's no longer sex, that's gender.
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#46
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
(April 28, 2021 at 11:07 pm)The  Grand Nudger Wrote: Let wonder lead you to knowledge.  There's absolutely no doubt that gender and gender roles are constructed.

the cute bluster suggest there is no concrete knowledge behind the assertion.

that you choose not to doubt a much loved assertion, does not make it “there is no doubt”.
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#47
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Constructed as it may be considered, my penis informs me and my sexual partners that I am factually and biologically of the male gender.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#48
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Sex is not gender. Your dick doesn't tell anyone that you're a boy.
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#49
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
(April 28, 2021 at 11:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sex is not gender.

Sex is gender in that we base our sexual attractions to others based on gender. I cannot be sexually attracted to a biological woman who identifies as the male gender.
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#50
RE: Understanding transgenderism.
Can you be attracted to a tomboy or a girl with short hair? An aggressive girl? An assertive girl? A ripped girl? A violent girl? A girl with a deep voice?

We don't base our sexual attractions on gender either. We fetishize a gender to account for our sexual attractions, excuse our personal compulsivity, and conform to societies expectations. The prettiest looking girl in the world takes off her pants, and has a dick. A male sex. You still down? We've turned nothing into a gordian knot. That's kind of cool, I think. I also think it's kind of cool the things we swear we can't be attracted by or two. I hope the rest our our machine is taking notes when we set those rules down.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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