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Official live update of spread of COVID19
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Up note:

Merck & Co Inc (MRK.N) said on Wednesday the U.S. government has agreed to pay about $1.2 billion for 1.7 million courses of its experimental COVID-19 treatment, if it is proven to work in an ongoing large trial and authorized by U.S. regulators.

The oral antiviral treatment, molnupiravir, aims to stop COVID-19 from progressing and can be given early in the course of the disease, similar to Tamiflu to treat influenza.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/952...3813&faf=1

Down note:

Grafton Pharmacist Who Attempted To Destroy COVID-19 Vaccine Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

https://www.wpr.org/grafton-pharmacist-w...ars-prison
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
Just rang to book in for a pfizer jab. Only under 50's allowed!
Us old farts over 50 can only get the blood clotting one! (AstraZeneca)
They figured we've lived long enough.
I'll wait. (there's not one case in Qld. What's the risk. Dunno
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My jab is coming up soon. Will I need to buy a 5G enabled phone?

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So, what do you think guys, what is going on in Chile? Why are COVID-19 cases and deaths significantly increasing, in spite of high vaccination rates? Is it:

a) Vaccines we have are, as WHO said when arguing against vaccine passports, not known to significantly reduce the spread of COVID-19, although they make people significantly less likely to experience symptoms if they get infected (because COVID-19 is mostly spread by people without symptoms, because, although infected people without symptoms tend to emit far fewer droplets, they tend not to be isolated from other people). As such, people have been lulled into false sense of security.

b) The seasonality of COVID-19 has more effect than vaccination, and it is now winter in Chile. I find that explanation very unlikely. While Vitamin D almost certainly helps against COVID-19, suggesting it somehow helps more than actual vaccines that target it seems ridiculous.

c) The data is inaccurate. How and why?

d) Something else...
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Possibilities:

1) The Sinovac vaccine isn't very good. A doctor claims that 10% of fully-vaccinated people, when they get Covid, will end up in ICU. That is contrary to every claim about the vaccines used in North America.

2) Seasonal problems and people no longer social distancing.

3) Even 75% of first-dose vaccinated population is not enough to get herd immunity with the Brazil variant of Covid. Their numbers show that most people getting sick are not vaccinated (about 3/4).
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HappySkeptic Wrote:The Sinovac vaccine isn't very good. A doctor claims that 10% of fully-vaccinated people, when they get Covid, will end up in ICU. That is contrary to every claim about the vaccines used in North America.
Isn't that kind of circular reasoning? How do we know it is significantly less effective? Because it didn't seem to work in Chile, right?
As far as I know, all the COVID-19 vaccines we have make the body produce between 8 times and 50 times more antibodies than an actual COVID-19 infection would make, and that varies much more between individual people than between the vaccines.
It should be impossible that 10% of vaccinated people end up in ICU when they get COVID, given that only 5% of unvaccinated people even end up being hospitalized. 80% of people who carry COVID-19 have no symptoms whatsoever.
HappySkeptic Wrote:Even 75% of first-dose vaccinated population is not enough to get herd immunity with the Brazil variant of Covid.
As far as I know, those claims about different COVID-19 strains (that vaccines do not work against some of them...) are usually considered pseudoscientific.
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(June 11, 2021 at 10:27 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, what do you think guys, what is going on in Chile? Why are COVID-19 cases and deaths significantly increasing, in spite of high vaccination rates? Is it:

d) Something else...

Only the elite are getting the vaccine, the masses get normal saline. Panic
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(June 11, 2021 at 3:33 pm)brewer Wrote:
(June 11, 2021 at 10:27 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, what do you think guys, what is going on in Chile? Why are COVID-19 cases and deaths significantly increasing, in spite of high vaccination rates? Is it:

d) Something else...

Only the elite are getting the vaccine, the masses get normal saline. Panic

That sounds like a weird conspiracy theory.
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Police in rural India have made some citizens who have not been vaccinated against the coronavirus wear signs with a skull and crossbones, the universal symbol for danger, stoking anger in a country where shots are in short supply.

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/skul...021-06-10/
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