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Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
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 (November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: NO EVIDENCE = NO GOD! That is why I am still an agnostic atheist, because this is simply incorrect.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you 
 (November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: NO EVIDENCE = NO GOD! Unfortunately, lack of evidence is proof of nothing, but I, myself, find any sort of god logically incoherent with my world view. Considering the expanse of time and space, it is impossible to proof the non-existence of a god, but on the other hand, it would seem that if there were a god, it should be easy enough to prove. It has not, ergo, there is no god.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy 
I hate the whole "agnostic atheist" thing. For some reason, saying "we can't know" is the only logical position when discussing God, but not when discussing all the other possible things that have similar chances of existing. I'm agnostic regarding God in the same way that I'm agnostic regarding the possibility that the moon contains at least 10kg of green cheese.
 (November 21, 2011 at 12:22 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: NO EVIDENCE = NO GOD! NO EVIDENCE = NO SANTA CLAUS!  Would that be incorrect too?
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
 (November 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm)edk141 Wrote: I hate the whole "agnostic atheist" thing. For some reason, saying "we can't know" is the only logical position when discussing God, but not when discussing all the other possible things that have similar chances of existing. I'm agnostic regarding God in the same way that I'm agnostic regarding the possibility that the moon contains at least 10kg of green cheese. That's the same way most of the rest of us agnostic atheists are agnostic about God (and the green cheese).  (November 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm)edk141 Wrote: I hate the whole "agnostic atheist" thing. For some reason, saying "we can't know" is the only logical position when discussing God, but not when discussing all the other possible things that have similar chances of existing. I'm agnostic regarding God in the same way that I'm agnostic regarding the possibility that the moon contains at least 10kg of green cheese. Yeah, I think I made this point recently. Here's my thoughts as per a post I made a few weeks ago: (September 3, 2011 at 11:22 am)ElDinero Wrote: I've always found the term 'agnostic' to muddle the issue, it's pretty unnecessary. If you say you're an agnostic atheist, you get 'AHA, so you don't know', and if you say you're a gnostic atheist (which if pushed is where I would have to lean) then they say 'But how can you KNOW for sure there is no God', and then I have to fall over myself trying to explain that I KNOW there is no God to the same extent that I know unicorns et al do not exist. There has never been any credible evidence of either, but nobody gets grilled on other fantastical myths. (November 21, 2011 at 2:46 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm)edk141 Wrote: I hate the whole "agnostic atheist" thing. For some reason, saying "we can't know" is the only logical position when discussing God, but not when discussing all the other possible things that have similar chances of existing. I'm agnostic regarding God in the same way that I'm agnostic regarding the possibility that the moon contains at least 10kg of green cheese. I know, but when people say stuff like "can't know" it bothers me because to use "can't know" in that sense renders it meaningless. Nothing can be absolutely certainly known. Describing oneself as agnostic about it is superfluous, really, and to me it doesn't properly describe the position of only a tiny bit agnostic, but 50-50, which is wrong. 
Do you know that unicorns and fairies don't exist? If so, how do you know?
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 Quote:'But how can you KNOW for sure there is no God' Because I have seen no evidence for it AND because god's professed adherents are a pretty sorry lot. (November 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 12:22 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: NO EVIDENCE = NO GOD! Yes.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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