Trucker Protest - End all COVID Mandates Now

[Disagreeable]

End the mandates? Increase them. And make vaccines mandatory*.

*If you are to keep your freedoms. Exposing others when you are unvaccinated is not just a danger to you but them also. It's not merely bodily autonomy if you're using your body to harm others.

One of my favorites is 'your freedom stops where my nose starts'.

Yeah, for all its nosebleedingly hyper-capitalistic immoral issues Libertarianism still gets some things very right indeed. Good quote indeed, my friend.

[The Grand Nudger]

Wow. I honestly did not consider my statement about mask mandates would be opposed so strongly. I consider myself as well-read about mask efficacy for COVID as any layman and I do not see any compelling evidence in favor of universal public masking, particularly of children.

I've read conflicting things about it. And of course no source, either way, should be trusted completely.

I guess I'm for masks just because of my experience here. In Japan social distancing is pretty much impossible, and lockdowns were never strict. We were slow to get vaccinated. But we're 100% masked. And of course Covid has been far less severe here than in other rich countries. So in my non-expert way, I see a correlation there. 

But again, I see the problem with forcing people to do it.

Oh look - another entirely predictable ostrich. 

[Disagreeable]

I've read conflicting things about it. And of course no source, either way, should be trusted completely.

I guess I'm for masks just because of my experience here. In Japan social distancing is pretty much impossible, and lockdowns were never strict. We were slow to get vaccinated. But we're 100% masked. And of course Covid has been far less severe here than in other rich countries. So in my non-expert way, I see a correlation there. 

But again, I see the problem with forcing people to do it.

Oh look - another entirely predictable ostrich. 

You must get bored. @ me.

[The Grand Nudger]

I do. meh.

[Fake Messiah]

Evangeline Lilly defends the Canadian truckers from Trudeau and invents shit like that doctors and nurses want to visit him, and claims how he and “corporate media” “smeared them as racist and misogynistic and minority.”

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If there was any doubt - any doubt at all - as to whether the Ottawa 'protesters' are on the right side of this, allow me to erase that doubt:

Ottawa Protesters Using Children As Human Shields

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

If there was any doubt - any doubt at all - as to whether the Ottawa 'protesters' are on the right side of this, allow me to erase that doubt:

Ottawa Protesters Using Children As Human Shields

Boru

Heck, the fact they even brought children into this is messed up 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If there was any doubt - any doubt at all - as to whether the Ottawa 'protesters' are on the right side of this, allow me to erase that doubt:

Ottawa Protesters Using Children As Human Shields

Boru

Heck they even brought children into this is messed up 

Ayup. And yet they're claiming masks and vaccines put their kids at risk. It's a good thing that bringing children to an outdoor protest in midwinter where they have nowhere to get warm but in the cab of a lorry and then are placed between nervous cops in riot gear and the protesters the cops are there to arrest keeps the kiddies safe as houses.

Boru

[Pat Mustard]

The mask mandates should have ended a very long time ago.

So you're one of the face nappy crowd. Why am I not surprised that you have an utter disregard for others?

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The mask mandates should have ended a very long time ago.

Because, apparently, COVID-19 isn’t still spreading at an alarming rate, and people totally aren’t dying of the disease at a rate that we haven’t seen since before the vaccine was readily available.

Then again, you may have a point. Maybe we should have reached the point where we didn’t need to wear masks because we should have all gotten vaccinated when we had the chance to get herd immunity before it had the chance to mutate into newer strains, but we don’t live in a world where people can be reasonably expected to give a shit about sanity, the lives of others, or even their own lives. And therefore, the mask mandates remain in place.

Even in countries with near full vaccination rates, Covid 19 is still spreading like wildfire. We're still running at c. 8,000 new cases a day, with full adult coverage and most children having at least two shots.

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I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that it wasn't too long ago that various MAGhats were calling for protestors who block roads to be run over and shot.

Boru

Ah but these protestors are fighting for the freedom of true aryans and not trying to make magat SA types treat untermenschen like human beings. That's the difference.

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mask mandates are the last thing that should go.

Vaccine requirements should be the first to go.  By now, everyone who is EVER going to get vaccinated has done so.  Against new variants, protection against infection wanes after a few months.  Are we going to define "fully vaccinated" as "had a booster within the last 3 months"?  If not, then it loses its usefulness.

The virus is beyond containment or eradication.  We are already at the "learn to live with it" stage, providing it doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system.  For that - we need as many vaccinated as possible, but mandates won't help.  The right-wing is fully entrenched and is now against all vaccines of all type.  Science has lost the PR war with part of the population.

End vaccine mandates once the anti-vaxxers are gone. My preference is to stick them on an unihabited and remote island with just the clothes on their backs. Give them the freedom they profess to truly desire.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Heck they even brought children into this is messed up 

Ayup. And yet they're claiming masks and vaccines put their kids at risk. It's a good thing that bringing children to an outdoor protest in midwinter where they have nowhere to get warm but in the cab of a lorry and then are placed between nervous cops in riot gear and the protesters the cops are there to arrest keeps the kiddies safe as houses.

Boru

Not to mention a very angry populous. I swear if the cops had not gotten rid of them it wouldn't have been long before an angry mob did it for them. Between the harassment and the fact, they have made downtown core near unlivable. Everyone is at their wit's end.