Christian fundamentalists are people who refuse to embrace cognitive dissonance; their worldview, while unscientific, is completely rational.
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Theists: What is your stance on evolution?
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The question that creationists should be asking is "if there is an intelligent designer why are there so many extinct species? Why create species over and over again to be replaced by other species? Couldn't he do it right the first time if he was intelligent and perfect?"
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (March 6, 2022 at 7:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: The question that creationists should be asking is "if there is an intelligent designer why are there so many extinct species? Why create species over and over again to be replaced by other species? Couldn't he do it right the first time if he was intelligent and perfect?" A corollary to that question might be, 'If there is an intelligent designer, why didn't He make me intelligent enough to accept that He could design biological evolution?' Boru
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God! Theresa, I forgot me fecking trousers!  Religious Views: the Disc's first ligthning proof atheist (March 6, 2022 at 3:42 am)Helios Wrote: There is no other theory there is Science (evolutionary biology) and there is Garbage (ID and Creationism) and there are no ID or Creation theorists they are only bullshit merchants posing as such. And there are no Dinosaurs in the bible. It's kind of telling that when trying to push the creationist viewpoint they picked three senior "experts"* in the afea but when they wanted somebody to explain evolution they didn't pick one of the many thousands of biologists out there, but an astronomer who's made a living not from doing astronomy, but by bullshitting about how science "proves" christianity. It ie no a serious interrogation of each position and of the facts, but a piece of creationist apologetics. *For a laughably low level of expertise, admittedly.
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(March 6, 2022 at 6:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(March 6, 2022 at 6:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Dragons. One was a water serpent, the other an earth serpent. There was another. Ziz - sky serpent.
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(March 6, 2022 at 10:16 am)Jehanne Wrote: For religious fundamentalists, this is a gift that keeps on giving: It's not just fundamentalists but all Christians are like that/ creationists. Even those who accept evolution believe that God interfered in it with his miracles.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (March 6, 2022 at 7:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: The question that creationists should be asking is "if there is an intelligent designer why are there so many extinct species? Why create species over and over again to be replaced by other species? Couldn't he do it right the first time if he was intelligent and perfect?" Why not? The god or alien or whatever you want to call it is free to do whatever he wants and maybe he has no one to answer to. I’ve already had such conversations with christians and probably you have as well and that is the sort of answer that I get. If I talk to them about the global flood and the killing of innocent people and animals, they respond with “all people were evil and as for animals, god is the boss.” Who knows what is going on in their head. I assume that they have been trained to believe that the jewish god is wonderful, is perfect, not to get on his bad side. Maybe they think that they should show some gratitude because he gave them life. Maybe because of that, they are willing to be a bystander when that guy is killing people. Maybe they are willing to kill their first born son just like Abraham. A company like Intel, GM, Ford wants to get things right. A dentist working on your tooth wants to get it right. Their reputation is on the line. (March 6, 2022 at 11:33 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Why not? The god or alien or whatever you want to call it is free to do whatever he wants and maybe he has no one to answer to. Why? Because they can't call him perfect then. If you heard about let's say "perfect architect" and saw that over 50% of his buildings have fatal flaws, would you call him perfect architect? Or could a student whose work is mostly below average be called a "perfect student"?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (December 1, 2021 at 8:56 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Yeah, as has been said, evolution doesn't pretend to explain abiogenesis. It only describes the processes affecting how generations of organisms change over time. Abiogenesis remains a mystery. And just like any other mystery, it is prudent to dismiss god of the gaps hypotheses. But they're still dots, right? Nothing evolved to be a non-dot! j/k |
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