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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 2:43 pm
No. Effin'. Way. My equipment, my control. Work-supplied equipment, their control. No exceptions.
If an employer wants me to install software on something, they're paying the whole shot. If they refuse, I walk.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 5:48 pm
I have the authenicator app on my phone. If I want to log into the university VPN, the app pushes a notification and I have to approve or deny it through the app. otherwise, it leaves me alone.
My wife has her whole phone encrypted for her job, but her company pays for part of the phone.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 5:57 pm
Because of HIPPA regulations I am required by work to have certain encryption protocols on my phone.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 7:15 pm
(March 10, 2022 at 12:38 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
The application is microsoft authenticator.
I would not feel comfortable installing an application for work on a personal device.
Security is incredibly of high important at work.
Well, it is the same for me. I would prefer to keep the two separate.
In fact, microsoft authenticator is not compatible with my device. It needs the latest iOS version.
Looks like for my colleagues, it does not bother them.
I have two authenticators on my phone for work. Its the price of being able to work from home.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 7:26 pm
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(March 10, 2022 at 12:53 am)Foxaire Wrote: I didn't have to install the apps, but I did. One shows my schedule and the other is a payroll app.
I think that is ok if you want to view your schedule and payroll, however, even in that case, I would not install any apps.
It should be a website from where you can download a document or they should give it to you on paper.
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(March 10, 2022 at 8:46 am)GrandizerII Wrote: Maybe I'm naive, but Microsoft Authenticator doesn't seem very invasive to me, so I'm ok with having it for work on my personal phone. Not that I have much choice here anyway.
I don't know what it does since I don't have the source code.
One issue is that Google and a few companies are trying to push this on users.
If you have a personal email, then you are probably not part of the military, you aren't working with top secret info and so, you don't need that level of security.
The other problem is that you become traceable. You can no longer create a throw away account.
Google seems to want to tie your account to your cellphone number.
Overall, there is a matter of principle. If Microsoft Authenticator is part of the companies security choice, then they should provide the equipement, the same way they provide a chair, a laptop, a desk, electricity.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 9:54 pm
In the '80s and '90s, we could request a software suite to use on our home computers, and we could communicate with the work emails. That got worse and worse as viruses propagated, the company went away from that model. I had a laptop for several years before I retired. All company equipment, and we had authentication that did not involve a cell phone. We were provided an RSA fob. By the time I retired, I had a chipped badge that could be used for verification when I logged in. IIRC- it has been 7 years since I retired.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 10, 2022 at 11:34 pm
Not a chance. My employer isn't even.aware of the existence of my personal phone.
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 11, 2022 at 12:20 pm
(March 10, 2022 at 12:38 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
The application is microsoft authenticator.
I would not feel comfortable installing an application for work on a personal device.
Security is incredibly of high important at work.
Well, it is the same for me. I would prefer to keep the two separate.
In fact, microsoft authenticator is not compatible with my device. It needs the latest iOS version.
Looks like for my colleagues, it does not bother them.
I have and have been using said "For work' app for ages...Untill my aging phone has been deemed 'No longer updatable' for said software upgrades/updates.
Am now in the process of trying to get a work around happening so that I can resume using said 'Mandatory for work' app.
Must admit, all these technological bells and whsitles must seem grand to the executive rubber stamping their roll out but how much thought is given to the emplyee who's phone/comupter is NOT a 'Payed for by the company' state of the art piece of equipment?
*Sigh*
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 12, 2022 at 4:52 pm
(March 10, 2022 at 9:54 pm)Fireball Wrote: In the '80s and '90s, we could request a software suite to use on our home computers, and we could communicate with the work emails. That got worse and worse as viruses propagated, the company went away from that model. I had a laptop for several years before I retired. All company equipment, and we had authentication that did not involve a cell phone. We were provided an RSA fob. By the time I retired, I had a chipped badge that could be used for verification when I logged in. IIRC- it has been 7 years since I retired.
But to communicate, I suppose you would need an internet account.
I remember one oldie told me that the first modem he bought was 300 baud and cost 900$.
I like the RSA keyfobs. The company gives it to you and when your contract is done, you return it and they give it to someone else.
It's a dynamic password so there is no need to change your password. You keep the PIN the same.
For the RSA, there is a Windows software version. They don't force you to install it on your cellphone. You can install it on your work PC.
Same with Entrust. You can install the software the work PC.
I'm glad that you escaped this nutty world
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RE: Would you install an application on your cellphone for work?
March 12, 2022 at 8:49 pm
I have a VMWare app which generates half of a pin through prng to allow me to log into my work profile from home which was necessary during covid.
Strangely IT in their wisdom installed the same facility inside my work profile, so I now can log in on my work computer, to log in to my remote profile.
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