Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 26, 2024, 3:18 pm
Atheist Forums › Community › Religion › Christianity v
Credible/Honest Apologetics?

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
Credible/Honest Apologetics?
arewethereyet Offline
Don't make me use my mom voice!
*******
Religious Views: Yawn...
Posts: 16606
Threads: 128
Joined: July 10, 2013
Reputation: 65
#181
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 27, 2022 at 10:01 pm
(July 27, 2022 at 9:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Ummmm....its called brewing.

Oh, and so, Jesus had a portable still with him that day??

A fast one....sort of like a coffee maker apparently.
[Image: MmQV79M.png]  
                                      
Find
Reply
Pat Mustard Offline
God! Theresa, I forgot me fecking trousers!
****
Religious Views: the Disc's first ligthning proof atheist
Posts: 8277
Threads: 47
Joined: September 12, 2015
Reputation: 42
#182
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 2:54 pm
(July 25, 2022 at 11:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 25, 2022 at 10:41 pm)Angrboda Wrote: In other words, it's prima facie incoherent.  And that's how it stays unless you go with the copout that "It's a mystery."  Yeah.  Tell me again about how Christianity restores intelligibility to the universe.

Jesus of Nazareth was a nut, whom the literate Romans crucified without so much as a historical footnote, and the hundreds of thousands of individuals who could have mentioned his existence didn't, because, he was not worth mentioning -- they all knew a religious loon when they saw one.

Instead, it was due to the influence of a bunch of illiterate, lowerclass peasants, all of whom believed in a flat Earth, and one apocalyptic literate psychotic individual, Paul, who sowed the foundations of what would later become a world religion.

But, yet, here we are discussing it!

Jesus was never crucified. If there was a preacher named Yeshua bar Yosef in Iudaea around the start of the Principate and if he were killed by authorities it would be the jewish religious authorities either stoning or lynching him. A crucifiction would never have happened unless the life of Yeshua was much different than that portrayed for Jesus in the bible.
Urbs Antiqua Fuit Studiisque Asperrima Belli

Home
Find
Reply
R00tKiT Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Sunni Islam
Posts: 1101
Threads: 15
Joined: November 29, 2019
Reputation: 2
#183
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 3:46 pm by R00tKiT.)
(July 26, 2022 at 6:06 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Since existence is necessarily spatial and temporal (how can something exist with no time or space?),

If you can't imagine how something would exist with no time/space, that's a you problem. If you further claim boldly that existence is necessarily spatial, you're arguing from incredulity.

(July 25, 2022 at 9:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.
Find
Reply
Jehanne Away
Senior Member
****
Religious Views: n/a
Posts: 7259
Threads: 506
Joined: December 12, 2015
Reputation: 22
#184
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 3:49 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(July 26, 2022 at 6:06 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: [quote='The Grand Nudger' pid='2110548' dateline='1658755349']
It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.

Reading isn't for everyone -- fairies do not split apples.
Find
Reply
The Grand Nudger Offline
Retired Staff
*****
Religious Views: Invasive
Posts: 67295
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation: 162
#185
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:01 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 4:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(July 25, 2022 at 9:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.
I know this is hard for an islamist to process..but the moon has never been split, and fairies can't do anything to begin with. Size isn't an issue. Fairies can't split apples either.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Find
Reply
Fake Messiah Offline
Activist for Sin
*****
Religious Views: Prozac supplants exorcism
Posts: 17200
Threads: 462
Joined: March 29, 2015
Reputation: 30
#186
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:05 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.

[Image: chess-pigeon.jpg]
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Find
Reply
The Architect Of Fate Offline
Supreme Celestial Being
*****
Religious Views: Non Believer
Posts: 11342
Threads: 29
Joined: December 8, 2019
Reputation: 14
#187
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm
Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM

      
Find
Reply
Jehanne Away
Senior Member
****
Religious Views: n/a
Posts: 7259
Threads: 506
Joined: December 12, 2015
Reputation: 22
#188
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm)Helios Wrote: Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy

Of course, the Moon likely arose from the splitting of Theia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_(planet)
Find
Reply
The Architect Of Fate Offline
Supreme Celestial Being
*****
Religious Views: Non Believer
Posts: 11342
Threads: 29
Joined: December 8, 2019
Reputation: 14
#189
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 5:02 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 5:02 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
(July 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm)Helios Wrote: Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy

Of course, the Moon likely arose from the splitting of Theia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_(planet)
I would would considering that more pulverizing then splitting
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM

      
Find
Reply
rlp21858 Offline
Newbie
*
Religious Views: Christian
Posts: 31
Threads: 1
Joined: June 16, 2022
Reputation: 1
#190
RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
August 4, 2022 at 12:49 pm
TheJefe817: i dont have any reading material, but i mentioned about the Taoist conception of God in the other thread and its connections to Christianity. does that help you any?
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Religion › Christianity v
Credible/Honest Apologetics?

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Let's see how many apologetics take the bait Joods 127 21430 July 16, 2016 at 10:54 pm
Last Post: Silver
  Ignorant apologetics aside, your god does not exist. Silver 10 2808 April 16, 2016 at 12:26 pm
Last Post: Mystic
  Priestly apologetics in a sermon this a.m. drfuzzy 13 3625 April 1, 2016 at 2:08 pm
Last Post: Drich
  Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument? SamS 141 19545 July 26, 2015 at 9:22 am
Last Post: loganonekenobi
  Thoughts on Atheism and Apologetics Randy Carson 105 20714 July 4, 2015 at 5:39 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Non-fundamentalist apologetics is about obfuscation RobbyPants 6 2378 May 9, 2015 at 1:52 pm
Last Post: Pyrrho
  Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism? LivingNumbers6.626 156 26162 April 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm
Last Post: robvalue
  GOOD Apologetics? ThePinsir 31 7278 January 28, 2014 at 3:11 pm
Last Post: Ryantology
  Apologetics Psychonaut 9 3234 October 1, 2013 at 10:57 am
Last Post: Lemonvariable72
  Apologetics blog domain name John V 54 20479 August 13, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Last Post: rexbeccarox



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)