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Credible/Honest Apologetics?
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 27, 2022 at 10:01 pm
(July 27, 2022 at 9:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Ummmm....its called brewing.

Oh, and so, Jesus had a portable still with him that day??

A fast one....sort of like a coffee maker apparently.
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 2:54 pm
(July 25, 2022 at 11:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 25, 2022 at 10:41 pm)Angrboda Wrote: In other words, it's prima facie incoherent.  And that's how it stays unless you go with the copout that "It's a mystery."  Yeah.  Tell me again about how Christianity restores intelligibility to the universe.

Jesus of Nazareth was a nut, whom the literate Romans crucified without so much as a historical footnote, and the hundreds of thousands of individuals who could have mentioned his existence didn't, because, he was not worth mentioning -- they all knew a religious loon when they saw one.

Instead, it was due to the influence of a bunch of illiterate, lowerclass peasants, all of whom believed in a flat Earth, and one apocalyptic literate psychotic individual, Paul, who sowed the foundations of what would later become a world religion.

But, yet, here we are discussing it!

Jesus was never crucified. If there was a preacher named Yeshua bar Yosef in Iudaea around the start of the Principate and if he were killed by authorities it would be the jewish religious authorities either stoning or lynching him. A crucifiction would never have happened unless the life of Yeshua was much different than that portrayed for Jesus in the bible.
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 3:46 pm by R00tKiT.)
(July 26, 2022 at 6:06 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Since existence is necessarily spatial and temporal (how can something exist with no time or space?),

If you can't imagine how something would exist with no time/space, that's a you problem. If you further claim boldly that existence is necessarily spatial, you're arguing from incredulity.

(July 25, 2022 at 9:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 3:49 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(July 26, 2022 at 6:06 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: [quote='The Grand Nudger' pid='2110548' dateline='1658755349']
It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.

Reading isn't for everyone -- fairies do not split apples.
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:01 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 4:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(July 25, 2022 at 9:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not logically possible for some fairy to have ever split the moon - since the moon was never split. 

It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.
I know this is hard for an islamist to process..but the moon has never been split, and fairies can't do anything to begin with. Size isn't an issue. Fairies can't split apples either.
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:05 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: It's not logically possible to split the moon..  Hilarious

If it's logically possible to split an apple, it's logically possible to split the moon. Differences in size are irrelevant when it comes to logical possiblity.

I understand now why they say that philosophy isn't for everyone.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm
Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm
(July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm)Helios Wrote: Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy

Of course, the Moon likely arose from the splitting of Theia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_(planet)
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
July 28, 2022 at 5:02 pm (This post was last modified: July 28, 2022 at 5:02 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
(July 28, 2022 at 4:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm)Helios Wrote: Yes,  let's just ignore the cataclysmic results of altering the mass of the moon by splitting it ..... Dodgy

Of course, the Moon likely arose from the splitting of Theia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_(planet)
I would would considering that more pulverizing then splitting
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RE: Credible/Honest Apologetics?
August 4, 2022 at 12:49 pm
TheJefe817: i dont have any reading material, but i mentioned about the Taoist conception of God in the other thread and its connections to Christianity. does that help you any?
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