Biden Losing It

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

We do that to terrorists sometime.  It isn't to protect their identity.....or to provide open justice.  There are a host of practical issues with a secret defendant as well..but I can't see any of it bothering a person advocating for rights abrogation.

I think I prefer the way where I get to look my accuser straight in the face and call them a fucking liar.  Howsabout you?  See, I figure appealing to you is bound to be more useful than trying to elicit even an ounce of common sense concern for anyone else.  So...do you think that maybe you have a right to know who your police forces have in custody, and why?  Do you think you might want someone...anyone...to know that you are in custody, and what for?  In case your obvious lack of a moral example growing up leaves you similarly corrupted, ofc?  I mean, every time one of You People pops your head out you're worse than before..and if that's not corruption what could be?

If no, so be it, but I can tell you how hooding defendants in us trials would go.  Whole bunch of black guys convicted with hoods on their faces by people who never had to muster up the courage to face the man they condemned, who didn't even know who it -was- they condemned.  No reason to wait until we sentence them to death, amiright?  We'd run out of them eventually, though, and then you'd have to wonder if some accelerationist or eliminationist like me was eyeballing you for a good old fashioned headsock and anonymous trial.  Rolling those dice?

We've watched this movie before, haven't we?

Given that the justice system is intrinsically racist, since black people are overrepresented, then how would YOU operationalize a reduction in racism?

I'm saying that if those involved in producing a verdict or the sentences don't KNOW the race of the suspect, then they will be unable, consciously or unconsciously, to be racist toward them.

But we both know that it wouldn't matter-- because the cops will continue dragging in a disproportionate number of black people-- not because they're fucked up from growing up poor and being influenced by drugs and shitty schools, mind you, but because cops are evil racists.

So we can chant "Be. . . less. . . racist!" but I'd like to know how you'd operationalize that.  What steps, exactly, would you like to see happen to recitfy the situation?

The last time we watched this movie, you wouldn't produce pragmatic steps.  It ended with "Duh-- don't be racist, of course!"  I think there might have been a few head-slaps memes peppered in for extra entertainment.

But times change.  Let's brainstorm, here.  Rather than fighting for prisoners (aka black people) to vote, I'd fight for a system where they never get to a place where it even needs to be an issue.

Lol, you just equated ‘prisoners’ with ‘black people’.

‘Be less racist’ might be something you want to consider.

Boru

[bennyboy]

Lol, you just equated ‘prisoners’ with ‘black people’.

‘Be less racist’ might be something you want to consider.

Boru

Um, no. That's a reference.

I said that I don't think that incarcerated felons should be able to vote. They haven't lived up to their side of the social contract, and they shouldn't expect the privileges that it confers, in particular the power to participate in a decision that affects the well-being of others-- for whom those criminals have already shown little regard.

It's others who said, "Well, that's racist, because so many prisoners are black." I'm just paraphrasing that.

Unlike others here, I hold black people in high enough regard that I expect them to fulfill their side of the social contract. And almost all of them do. The ones who don't-- those who are drug dealers, pimps or gang-bangers-- I don't consider in any higher regard than I would anyone else who'd commited serious crimes.

[onlinebiker]

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm having trouble figuring out whether or not you want me to be able to hood you then accuse you of something and throw you before a jury I selected who won't ever have to face your(or their own)humanity as they condemn you to death.

How would you feel about your many text messages on these boards used as the evidence against an anonymous defendant in my white supremacy tribunal.... that I'm operating from a black site deathcamp?

I don't have to know how to Solve Racism™ to know that the idea of anonymous trails is flaming dogshit. Frankly, it's worse than your idea of depriving citizens of any say in their governance by the body holding them prisoner.

[Angrboda]

It looks like I bailed from this clusterfuck at an opportune time. Ah, life is good.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Lol, you just equated ‘prisoners’ with ‘black people’.

‘Be less racist’ might be something you want to consider.

Boru

Um, no.  That's a reference.

I said that I don't think that incarcerated felons should be able to vote.  They haven't lived up to their side of the social contract, and they shouldn't expect the privileges that it confers, in particular the power to participate in a decision that affects the well-being of others-- for whom those criminals have already shown little regard.

It's others who said, "Well, that's racist, because so many prisoners are black."  I'm just paraphrasing that.

Unlike others here, I hold black people in high enough regard that I expect them to fulfill their side of the social contract.  And almost all of them do.  The ones who don't-- those who are drug dealers, pimps or gang-bangers-- I don't consider in any higher regard than I would anyone else who'd commited serious crimes.

Nice try, but I saw you palm that card.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

[Angrboda]

[arewethereyet]

Well, sometimes people lose their train of thought and those thoughts wander off.

It's part of being human. Kinda like misspeaking.

There....re-railed.

[Nay_Sayer]

I don't normally talk to myself, but if I did-- yeah, i'd say that we should treat criminals as criminals without regard to race-- because considering race when deciding how to handle criminals is racist.

Ideally, trials would be done blind-- maybe by microphone only.  But I don't see how police could do that, unless we all wear burqas.

Trials aren't carried out by police.

Just the executions