Biden Losing It

[bennyboy]

Yes, perhaps it was a poor analogy as abstinence training is dumb, and you are suggesting good things that will benefit society that I agree with, and credit to you for having these stances, but the point still stands that those things, yes, are going to lessen the problem and we'll have less people in prison, but it doesn't eliminate the problem. There will always be innocent people in prison. There will be people brought up correctly by their parents, that can still fall into hanging around the wrong people, and then they can fall into crime. Like I said, shit just happens in life. Drugs are addictive. Even kids who were raised right experiment with drugs, and some of them just end up getting hooked and then their life is screwed. I actually don't mind so much that you don't want to give voting rights to people currently in prison, and I wouldn't consider someone a bad person for holding that position. The thing I'd be more interested in convincing you is my view that it's not ok to have innocent people in jail, even if doing so may prevent some violent crimes. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and many leaders in history thought they were doing the right thing by being tough on crime at the expense of human rights. You say you worry about crime and your family, and I can completely respect that, but you know what would make me feel even less safe? If I knew I didn't have the right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. If I knew that my family didn't have these rights.

It's a tricky issue. It sounds great to err on the side of liberty or innocence until proven guilty. But then sometimes you have to look in the eyes of a little girl's parents, after her mangled body is found in a ditch, killed by someone who's been under suspicion for a long time. So it's not a matter of whether there will be injustice-- it's which injustice you lean toward.

My view is that criminals might be innocent of the particular crime they were put away for-- but very few of them indeed were clean civilians who were just dragged up on fabricated charges. So I'd favor leaning more toward protecting the public than you, but certainly not without due process.

[The Grand Nudger]

IKR, we all know that even if they didn't do what we charged them for..Those People have certainly done something!

Lock em up..and unperson them..maybe use a hood.

[The Grand Nudger]

So you basically are itching for a civil war yourself and you want to Waco rednecks every time they tick you off. Got it.

I doubt Helios is..but I am, that is what it means to be an accelerationist, after all.  Sometimes, you just gotta rip the bandaid off.

[bennyboy]

Nice try, but I saw you palm that card.

Boru

If you want to call me a liar about words said in this thread and clarified, then go ahead. You can decide whatever I think about things, then you don't have to read my actual thoughts.

I'd suggest that's not the best way to communicate, though. Talking to yourself might not bring the witty repartee that you think it does.

[The Grand Nudger]

Watching people conditioned by polite society against racism come to terms with their own racist thoughts never gets old. It's a bit like rubbernecking a car crash.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nice try, but I saw you palm that card.

Boru

If you want to call me a liar about words said in this thread and clarified, then go ahead.  You can decide whatever I think about things, then you don't have to read my actual thoughts.

I'd suggest that's not the best way to communicate, though.  Talking to yourself might not bring the witty repartee that you think it does.

‘Liar’ is a bit strong. But you should be careful - with all that backpedaling you could get your trousies caught in the chain.

Boru

[Irreligious Atheist]

Sorry, bruh. Nudger hit me with the "das raciss" accusations out of nowhere, 

Uh huh...still waiting to see your cv for comparison, Mr Obviously Unqualified Diversity Hire. 

I will remind you that I did not apply for the job of Press Secretary, and I admit to having anxiety and not being a great public speaker either, so what's your point again? How do you rate Kamal Harris' interviews? 10/10? Wouldn't want to come across as a racist and criticize a person of colour. Careful how you answer. You forgot to call me a homophobe for criticizing that smarmy prick Pete Buttigieg too.

Incredible argument from the Press Secretary once again. Disagree with the majority, and you are an extremist. All atheists are extremists. The people who don't want a peace deal in Ukraine are extremists because only 32 percent of Americans don't want a peace deal. You want to defund the police? Well, the Press Secretary thinks you are an extremist, and you're sitting here white knighting a paid propagandist election denier who calls you an extremist.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...treme.html

"If you are not with where the majority of Americans are, that is extreme. That is an extreme way of thinking," she said.

[bennyboy]

If you want to call me a liar about words said in this thread and clarified, then go ahead.  You can decide whatever I think about things, then you don't have to read my actual thoughts.

I'd suggest that's not the best way to communicate, though.  Talking to yourself might not bring the witty repartee that you think it does.

‘Liar’ is a bit strong. But you should be careful - with all that backpedaling you could get your trousies caught in the chain.

Boru

Show any two quotes you think are backpedaling, and I'll be happy to show you why you're wrong to think it.

[The Grand Nudger]

Uh huh...still waiting to see your cv for comparison, Mr Obviously Unqualified Diversity Hire. 

I will remind you that I did not apply for the job of Press Secretary, and I admit to having anxiety and not being a great public speaker either, so what's your point again? How do you rate Kamal Harris' interviews? 10/10? Wouldn't want to come across as a racist and criticize a person of colour. Careful how you answer. You forgot to call me a homophobe for criticizing that smarmy prick Pete Buttigieg too.

Incredible argument from the Press Secretary once again. Disagree with the majority, and you are an extremist. All atheists are extremists. The people who don't want a peace deal in Ukraine are extremists because only 32 percent of Americans don't want a peace deal. You want to defund the police? Well, the Press Secretary thinks you are an extremist, and you're sitting here white knighting a paid propagandist election denier who calls you an extremist.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...treme.html

"If you are not with where the majority of Americans are, that is extreme. That is an extreme way of thinking," she said.

-and she's right again..you fucking nut.  That's literally what political extremism is. The vast majority of people don't think that baby eating lizard men stole the election from God King Trump by using italian space lasers to switch votes in liberal enclaves, and most people would insist that I mollycoddle a racist dipshit like you.

I'm fine with it, been this way since a I was a kid. You're still struggling with your own indoctrination, one assumes, on account of it being recent and currently ongoing. As I've told you many times by now, even when I was still in the culture I couldn't stand aggrieved sub-whites like yourself. If the obviously unqualified black skin™ keeps taking your yobs... that's probably a you problem. Go get an education, build a career, stack up some achievements. Like she did.

Extremism is "the quality or state of being extreme" or "the advocacy of extreme measures or views".[1]

The term is primarily used in a political or religious sense to refer to an ideology that is considered (by the speaker or by some implied shared social consensus) to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism

Couldn't rate the vps interviews for you, don't watch them, don't care.  Didn't watch that press conference either, because I don't care.  I did watch you embarrass yourself and whoever you came from in the only way you seem to know how anymore.  Still watching that.  Like I said, car crash, can't look away. Pete? Yeah, he comes across as smarmy alot whenever I've seen him talk. So? I'd be surprised if any mckinsey man didn't when they start waxing on about the middle class and how much they care. I imagine they've got an internal script they remind themselves to follow when the say whatever it is they've been asked to deliver. Smile..turn head left and right, make joke, seem human, mention kid....etc etc etc.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I will remind you that I did not apply for the job of Press Secretary, and I admit to having anxiety and not being a great public speaker either, so what's your point again? How do you rate Kamal Harris' interviews? 10/10? Wouldn't want to come across as a racist and criticize a person of colour. Careful how you answer. You forgot to call me a homophobe for criticizing that smarmy prick Pete Buttigieg too.

Incredible argument from the Press Secretary once again. Disagree with the majority, and you are an extremist. All atheists are extremists. The people who don't want a peace deal in Ukraine are extremists because only 32 percent of Americans don't want a peace deal. You want to defund the police? Well, the Press Secretary thinks you are an extremist, and you're sitting here white knighting a paid propagandist election denier who calls you an extremist.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...treme.html

"If you are not with where the majority of Americans are, that is extreme. That is an extreme way of thinking," she said.

-and she's right again..you fucking nut.  That's literally what political extremism is.  The vast majority of people don't think that baby eating lizard men stole the election from God King Trump by using italian space lasers to switch votes in liberal enclaves, and most people would insist that I mollycoddle a racist dipshit like you.

I'm fine with it, been this way since a I was a kid.  You're still struggling with your own indoctrination, one assumes, on account of it being recent and currently ongoing.  As I've told you many times by now, even when I was still in the culture I couldn't stand aggrieved sub-whites like yourself.  If the obviously unqualified black skin™ keeps taking your yobs... that's probably a you problem.  Go get an education, build a career, stack up some achievements.  Like she did.  

Extremism is "the quality or state of being extreme" or "the advocacy of extreme measures or views".[1]

The term is primarily used in a political or religious sense to refer to an ideology that is considered (by the speaker or by some implied shared social consensus) to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism

Couldn't rate the vps interviews for you, don't watch them, don't care.  Didn't watch that press conference either, because I don't care.  I did watch you embarrass yourself and whoever you came from in the only way you seem to know how anymore.  Still watching that.  Like I said, car crash, can't look away.  Pete?  Yeah, he comes across as smarmy alot whenever I've seen him talk.  So?  I'd be surprised if any mckinsey man didn't when they start waxing on about the middle class and how much they care.   I imagine they've got an internal script they remind themselves to follow when the say whatever it is they've been asked to deliver.  Smile..turn head left and right, make joke, seem human, mention kid....etc etc etc.

Way to completely ignore the context here, Nudge. You and I both know that when government starts throwing out the terms extremism or extreme, they mean more than just the literal definition of the word. They mean that being extreme makes you a bad person and a threat to society. That is almost always the context government uses these terms in, and I like how you're sitting here pretending that this is not the case. The Press Secretary had a gimme and an easy argument to make. The anti-abortion people are a problem because they want to take away the rights of women. How hard of an argument is that to make? Instead, she makes the argument that anyone who thinks outside of the norm is an extreme and bad person, which is pretty much the worst possible argument she could have made in that situation. We, as a society, don't leave things up to the will of the majority. That's how righteous but unpopular policies get squashed. Many of the social stances that we care about, were once minority positions in terms of public support, or still are.