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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 20, 2022 at 9:22 pm
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I'm reminded of a time when I was a Responsible Design Engineer for an antenna on a spacecraft. One of the consultants asked for some software to correct for axial ratio at the edge of the 3dB contour ring, so I took a pizza-cutter approach and wrote the code to take the values at 1/8 of the circumference- every 45º. The consultant (who looked like the guy on the Quaker Oats box) got all red in the face when I explained what I did, and actually complained that I was shooting myself in the foot with a fixed approach- in front of the customer, yet.
Anyway, the real reason I wrote this is because when I made the update, I put in a comment for where I started, but not where I finished, with the new code. People were coming to me to explain what the code did farther down, which was existing prior. I had to go and make another change to the code, literally, "Change in code stops here". Paleo brought this back from my memory.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 20, 2022 at 9:51 pm
(October 19, 2022 at 9:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t know why he hasn’t already been recognized for his breakthrough work in the field. 😂
You mean why most linguists are not taking my linguistic work about the names of places in Croatia seriously? Well, my guess is that it is for the same reason doctors back then did not take Semmelweis'es ideas seriously. Both Semmelweis and me tried to apply statistics where it usually is not used.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 20, 2022 at 10:05 pm
(October 20, 2022 at 9:51 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (October 19, 2022 at 9:53 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t know why he hasn’t already been recognized for his breakthrough work in the field. 😂
You mean why most linguists are not taking my linguistic work about the names of places in Croatia seriously? Well, my guess is that it is for the same reason doctors back then did not take Semmelweis'es ideas seriously. Both Semmelweis and me tried to apply statistics where it usually is not used.
And as a 'linguist' you are an expert on the effects of salt on the cardiovascular system?
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 21, 2022 at 11:08 am
(October 20, 2022 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (October 20, 2022 at 9:51 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: You mean why most linguists are not taking my linguistic work about the names of places in Croatia seriously? Well, my guess is that it is for the same reason doctors back then did not take Semmelweis'es ideas seriously. Both Semmelweis and me tried to apply statistics where it usually is not used.
And as a 'linguist' you are an expert on the effects of salt on the cardiovascular system?
No, but me having published a few papers in peer reviewed journals means I know something about how science works.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 21, 2022 at 12:15 pm
(October 21, 2022 at 11:08 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (October 20, 2022 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: And as a 'linguist' you are an expert on the effects of salt on the cardiovascular system?
No, but me having published a few papers in peer reviewed journals means I know something about how science works.
Medical journals?
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 21, 2022 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2022 at 12:34 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(October 21, 2022 at 11:08 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (October 20, 2022 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: And as a 'linguist' you are an expert on the effects of salt on the cardiovascular system?
No, but me having published a few papers in peer reviewed journals means I know something about how science works.
You’d think. And yet here you are, saying the stupidest non-peer reviewed shit I’ve ever heard.
Well done.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 21, 2022 at 3:06 pm
(October 21, 2022 at 12:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (October 21, 2022 at 11:08 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: No, but me having published a few papers in peer reviewed journals means I know something about how science works.
Medical journals?
Of course not. Why would I try to publish historical linguistics papers in medical journals? I publish them in historical journals, and I will probably publish some in linguistics journals in the future.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 22, 2022 at 1:21 pm
Paleophyte Wrote:Your accent makes you difficult to understand by times. Well, I am Croatian. I will never be a native speaker, no matter how much I practice. It is unfortunate. It is unfortunate that there are different languages.
Paleophyte Wrote:Don't waste the first minute of your video telling us why your life sucks. I was saying why I hadn't published a video for almost a year.
Paleophyte Wrote:If you would have done the very basic research in this case you'd have recognized the glucose spike - insulin spike problem that the good Doc describes as an overcompensating feedback loop that's incredibly common in bad computer code. I am a third-year computer science student and I have no idea what you are talking about.
Paleophyte Wrote:If you'd done this basic legwork you'd have avoided making an embarrassing video attacking a professional who actually isn't saying anything that hasn't been recognized by the medical community for several decades. What mechanism is she proposing when saying that protein you eat increases your blood glucose levels? Does eating protein (or some amino-acid) trigger gluconeogenesis like eating fructose or saturated fat does? Without explaining that, her diagram sounds like complete nonsense (and I think it actually is).
Paleophyte Wrote:In short, pick your topic well, research it to death, script it, have a few friends and a couple people who know the topic read it over, rewrite as necessary, practice it until it's polished, then shoot it well. I don't think I will make YouTube videos any more, at least not any time soon. It takes way more effort to make a YouTube video than to write a blog-post, yet I fail to see that it reaches more people.
Paleophyte Wrote:So you're just as likely to get kidney stones on your high protien, high carb, high fat western McDiet as you are from a solely high protien diet Sorry, I am quite sure that's not the case. Epidemiological data seems to be strongly against that. If that were the case, how it is that around 5% of children put on a ketogenic diet (because it supposedly treats epilepsy) get kidney stones, whereas virtually none of children that are not on a ketogenic diet do? Are you suggesting those 5% of children were not following the diet properly and were eating some crazy-high-protein diet instead of a ketogenic diet? Have you got any evidence of that?
LadyForCamus Wrote:What data did you feed into that thing? It does not read any data. Have you looked at the code? It only uses three constants which are coded at the beginning of the program:
Code: const how_many_people_in_the_general_population_have_low_blood_pressure=1/3; // I think it's even less than that, but let's go with that.
const how_many_people_with_heart_attacks_have_low_blood_pressure=0.41;
const how_many_people_were_in_the_study=100; // And I am quite sure there were more, but let's go with that.
I think I could have used the Student t-distribution as well, but I am not willing to look it up.
LadyForCamus Wrote:Also, P values don’t definitively prove cause and effect. So, how do you definitely prove cause and effect? Tell me, as it may come useful to me when writing my papers about historical linguistics. It would be a revolution to definitely prove cause and effect in the field of Croatian placenames.
arewethereyet Wrote:Stop taking heart meds, wrap a stick of butter with bacon and sprinkle liberally with salt. Now you are straw-manning. I never said to stop taking heart medication. I never said bacon did not increase your risk of getting a heart attack (though it does less than coconuts do). And if you actually have dangerously high blood pressure, then don't eat a lot of salt. My point is that more people have dangerously low blood pressure (causing heart attacks) than dangerously high blood pressure, so eating more salt could maybe decrease heart attacks in the general population (not those with dangerously high blood pressure).
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 22, 2022 at 5:06 pm
(October 22, 2022 at 1:21 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Paleophyte Wrote:If you would have done the very basic research in this case you'd have recognized the glucose spike - insulin spike problem that the good Doc describes as an overcompensating feedback loop that's incredibly common in bad computer code. I am a third-year computer science student and I have no idea what you are talking about.
No idea what you call it in comp sci. Us mortals call it overcompensation. Take any negative feedback loop and make it overcompensate enough and it becomes a positive feedback loop. It was a problem with some of the very early robots. Whenever they tried to compensate for a shift in balance they'd overdo it, producing an increasing rocking motion that inevitably toppled them. Same idea with glucose-insulin spikes.
Too much easily available glucose triggers an insulin spike. That makes you hungry, so you eat more carbs, which releases more insulin, which... You see where this is going, yes?
Quote:Paleophyte Wrote:If you'd done this basic legwork you'd have avoided making an embarrassing video attacking a professional who actually isn't saying anything that hasn't been recognized by the medical community for several decades.
What mechanism is she proposing when saying that protein you eat increases your blood glucose levels? Does eating protein (or some amino-acid) trigger gluconeogenesis like eating fructose or saturated fat does? Without explaining that, her diagram sounds like complete nonsense (and I think it actually is).
You understand that your argument is essentially "I don't understand the expert, so the expert must be wrong"? Compounding that with a failure to do basic research is impressive hubris. It took me about five clicks on Wikipedia to find this lovely diagram for you:
Quote:Paleophyte Wrote:In short, pick your topic well, research it to death, script it, have a few friends and a couple people who know the topic read it over, rewrite as necessary, practice it until it's polished, then shoot it well.
I don't think I will make YouTube videos any more, at least not any time soon. It takes way more effort to make a YouTube video than to write a blog-post, yet I fail to see that it reaches more people.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 23, 2022 at 11:16 am
Paleophyte Wrote:Too much easily available glucose triggers an insulin spike. That makes you hungry, so you eat more carbs, which releases more insulin, which... You see where this is going, yes? Well, hunger is, as far as I know, caused by a lack of leptin, rather than by too much insulin.
If that were true, how it is that vegetarians, who eat a diet that is even higher in carbohydrates than standard American diet is, tend to have lower body mass index, rather than higher? If carbohydrates make us hungry and overeat, we would expect vegetarians, as people who follow an exceptionally high-carbohydrate diet, to tend to be overweight. But that is not the case.
And even if that were true, what is the alternative? A low-carbohydrate diet is linked to kidney problems in humans, so it is not really an option.
Paleophyte Wrote:You understand that your argument is essentially "I don't understand the expert, so the expert must be wrong"? Oh, come on now! She is not a nutritional scientist, and she is going against the overwhelming consensus in nutritional science.
Paleophyte Wrote:It took me about five clicks on Wikipedia to find this lovely diagram for you: I think you did not understand the question. My question is not how your liver and kidneys convert some amino-acids into glucose. My question is what would trigger gluconeogenesis after a high-protein meal (to cause a spike in your blood glucose levels, as she claimed happens). Gluconeogenesis is not happening all the time. Your liver has to think (rightly or wrongly) that blood glucose levels are too low for gluconeogenesis to happen. Why exactly would your liver be mistaken ablut your blood glucose levels after a high-protein meal?
Similarly, cholesterol production is not happening all the time, but only when your liver thinks (rightly or wrongly) that there is not enough fat in the blood. Methionine causes your liver to think fat in the blood is too low, so the liver raises your cholesterol levels after you have eaten something high in methionine. Which is why sesame seeds are not recommended to people with high cholesterol. Is there an amino-acid that causes your liver to think your blood sugar is too low, just like methionine makes it think fat is too low? If so, which one is it?
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