Women-Life-Freedom Movement in Iran

[Rev. Rye]

Also, are we ignoring the fact that, unlike many of the nations we live in, Iran is a theocracy with a ruling class that notoriously has no reason to give a single shit about the will of the people? One that believes that the sort of oppression these women are protesting is literally ordained by God?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Do I really need to explain to you the difference between voting and signing a petition?

Boru

So you don't think voting is pointless?

Of course I don’t. My vote give me a voice in governing the State (at least, that’s how it works here). A petition, on the other hand has no force of law. Signing petitions is just something people do to salve their conscience.

Boru

[Ahriman]

So you don't think voting is pointless?

Of course I don’t. My vote give me a voice in governing the State (at least, that’s how it works here). A petition, on the other hand has no force of law. Signing petitions is just something people do to salve their conscience.

Boru

I find that unnecessarily pessimistic, but okay.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Also, are we ignoring the fact that, unlike many of the nations we live in, Iran is a theocracy with a ruling class that notoriously has no reason to give a single shit about the will of the people? One that believes that the sort of oppression these women are protesting is literally ordained by God?

Weird how a bunch of foreigners clutching their pearls and signing a letter isn’t going to convince a theocratic dictatorship to mend their ways, innit?

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Of course I don’t. My vote give me a voice in governing the State (at least, that’s how it works here). A petition, on the other hand has no force of law. Signing petitions is just something people do to salve their conscience.

Boru

I find that unnecessarily pessimistic, but okay.

You would, but that’s only because you’re an ignorant fucktastrophe of a human being.

Boru

[Ahriman]

I find that unnecessarily pessimistic, but okay.

You would, but that’s only because you’re an ignorant fucktastrophe of a human being.

Boru

Fucktastrophe? Sounds fun.

[arewethereyet]

note to self - add fucktastrophe to favorite words/phrases right up there with festering fucktangle. Try to work into conversation more often.

[Rev. Rye]

Also, are we ignoring the fact that, unlike many of the nations we live in, Iran is a theocracy with a ruling class that notoriously has no reason to give a single shit about the will of the people? One that believes that the sort of oppression these women are protesting is literally ordained by God?

Weird how a bunch of foreigners clutching their pearls and signing a letter isn’t going to convince a theocratic dictatorship to mend their ways, innit?

Boru

I strongly suspect that it'd take a proper revolution to do that. And even then, it's worth noting that the last time they tried that, it wound up spectacularly backfiring.

[Leonardo17]

- One of the key characteristic of the Iranian regime is that they like to make a show of force by sort of how they are able to “bend” mediatized people and institutions. Elnaz Rekabi, The rock climber who had appeared on the competition in Tokyo without her mandatory headscarf was forced to give up her family’s property before leaving Teheran. Now that the regime is unhappy with her behavior they are (according to me) spreading videos of her brother who is in tears at ruins of her family home that was recently demolished by the authorities.

I don’t know the cultural heritage behind this. But even when you flee to the West. 1) You will probably need police protection there 2) whatever or whoever you left behind you in Iran can and will be used as a levy against your actions in that country.

I don’t know if that sort or regime makes compromises.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63847173

[Leonardo17]

I think this is soviet methodology. In the 80’s the weight lifter Naim Suleiymanoglu from Bulgaria defected to Turkey because my government agreed to make some concessions to the communist Bulgarian Government at the time (Because Suleimanoglu was a very promising athlete from the Turkish minority in Bulgaria). And another Bulgarian Athlete of Turkish origin had to stay there and could not defect to us because the government threatened him with his brother if he ever decided to remain in Turkey.

Today, Iranians are asking for more social cohesion techniques from the Kremlin:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-seeks-ru...00563.html

There is a whole science behind this. This is almost a transfer of technology. They are clearly asking for Stalinian methods of repressions in order to impose İslam (?!?) on their own very people. (This is really admirable in every sense of the word )