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Roe v. Wade is gone.
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(April 9, 2023 at 2:48 am)Helios Wrote: It has no right to inhabit her body.
Fetus has such right because she is aware that sex can lead to pregnancy and put fetus in her own body willingly.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
At what age does the fetus gain rights? when it's just a bundle of a few cells, when it develops organs, when?
What about the case where it has an abnormality and allowing it to develop and be born will only lead to a very short and painful life? Would it not be kinder to abort it and prevent any future suffering?
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(April 9, 2023 at 6:13 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: At what age does the fetus gain rights?
It gains protection after conception.
Quote:What about the case where it has an abnormality and allowing it to develop and be born will only lead to a very short and painful life? Would it not be kinder to abort it and prevent any future suffering?
It has nothing to do with the subject that is being discussed. You don't kill healthy people just because some ill people would prefer to be euthanized.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(April 9, 2023 at 6:36 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(April 9, 2023 at 6:13 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: At what age does the fetus gain rights?
It gains protection after conception.

And why at this point? At conception a blastocyst is still only one cell and has yet to implant into the womb.

You do realise that about 60% of blastocysts naturally abort.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(April 9, 2023 at 6:51 am)GUBU Wrote:  At conception a blastocyst is still only one cell
So? You are just a clump of cells. That doesn't mean that others have a right to kill you.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
It is intellectually futile to entertain the irrationality that abortion is murder.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
Quote:Fetus has such right because she is aware that sex can lead to pregnancy and put fetus in her own body willingly.
The Fetus has no such right and the freedom to have sex is also the freedom to not be pregnant or to remove the fetus. It has no right to stay within her if she doesn't want it there. Period. sex does not mean she has to remain pregnant and doesn't have the right to become unpregnant.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
Quote:So? You are just a clump of cells. That doesn't mean that others have a right to kill you
Is he living inside someone else against their will?
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
Quote:It gains protection after conception.
No, it doesn't. It can be removed at any time at the woman's discretion.


Quote:It has nothing to do with the subject that is being discussed. You don't kill healthy people just because some ill people would prefer to be euthanized.
Actually, it does and you didn't come up with even a decent answer. You would honestly rather the poor thing suffer needlessly.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(April 9, 2023 at 7:14 am)Helios Wrote:
Quote:Fetus has such right because she is aware that sex can lead to pregnancy and put fetus in her own body willingly.
The Fetus has no such right and the freedom to have sex is also the freedom to not be pregnant or to remove the fetus. It has no right to stay within her if she doesn't want it there.

No, mother put fetus inside her body without its consent so she doesn't have a right to kill it.
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