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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 9, 2023 at 10:41 pm
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(April 9, 2023 at 3:21 pm)polymath257 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 6:02 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Fetus has such right because she is aware that sex can lead to pregnancy and put fetus in her own body willingly.
Irrelevant. Even if she initially gave permission, she has full power and right to remove such permission. no
Quote:And, of course, if she used contraception, she did NOT willingly allow a fetus to grow in her body.
Contraceptrion is not 100% effective. Everyone knows that. Woman that has consensual sex is always responsible for putting fetus inside her body without its permission.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 9, 2023 at 10:46 pm
Quote:no
Yes
Quote:Contraceptrion is not 100% effective. Everyone knows that. Woman that has consensual sex is responsible for putting fetus inside her body without its permission.
She doesn't require its permission to remove it from her body and the nature of the sex has no bearing on her right to undo the pregnancy and remove the fetus . So these points are moot.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 10, 2023 at 3:20 am
(April 9, 2023 at 10:41 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 3:21 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Irrelevant. Even if she initially gave permission, she has full power and right to remove such permission.
no
Quote:And, of course, if she used contraception, she did NOT willingly allow a fetus to grow in her body.
Contraceptrion is not 100% effective. Everyone knows that. Woman that has consensual sex is always responsible for putting fetus inside her body without its permission.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 10, 2023 at 9:22 am
(April 9, 2023 at 10:41 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 3:21 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Irrelevant. Even if she initially gave permission, she has full power and right to remove such permission. no
Quote:And, of course, if she used contraception, she did NOT willingly allow a fetus to grow in her body.
Contraceptrion is not 100% effective. Everyone knows that. Woman that has consensual sex is always responsible for putting fetus inside her body without its permission.
Yes. It is her body. Even in the strange world in which an embryo or fetus is regarded as a full person, the woman would still have an absolute right to deny her body for their use.
And the fetus is not *put in her body*. It attaches and grows into a fetus inside her body. What is put in her body is a bit of sperm, not a fetus.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 10, 2023 at 11:03 am
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(April 9, 2023 at 11:23 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 11:12 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Ignoring the question!
You can't murder someone who hasn't been born
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(April 9, 2023 at 12:52 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 6:58 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: So? You are just a clump of cells. That doesn't mean that others have a right to kill you.
Is a religious belief guiding your opinion about abortion?
If so what religion are you apart of?
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 10, 2023 at 11:09 am
(April 9, 2023 at 10:17 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 9:57 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: So? would you still oppose an abortion if it happend?
What about the recent case of a 10 year old girl who was refused an abortion after being raped, do you think she would be in a position to give birth safely (physically and mentally)?? What about 98.5%? That's 788,000 murders every year.
Why are you ignoring the question??
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 10, 2023 at 1:53 pm
(April 10, 2023 at 11:09 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 10:17 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: What about 98.5%? That's 788,000 murders every year.
Why are you ignoring the question??
Maybe he likes the idea of 10 year old rape victims giving birth... sounds that way to me!
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 6:19 am
(April 10, 2023 at 9:22 am)polymath257 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 10:41 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: no
Contraceptrion is not 100% effective. Everyone knows that. Woman that has consensual sex is always responsible for putting fetus inside her body without its permission.
Yes. It is her body. Even in the strange world in which an embryo or fetus is regarded as a full person, the woman would still have an absolute right to deny her body for their use. No, she can't kill innocent human being just because of inconvenience.
Quote:And the fetus is not *put in her body*. It attaches and grows into a fetus inside her body. What is put in her body is a bit of sperm, not a fetus.
She willingly attaches fetus to her body without its consent.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 6:21 am
(April 10, 2023 at 11:09 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 10:17 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: What about 98.5%? That's 788,000 murders every year.
Why are you ignoring the question?? How is it worse than genocide?
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 6:23 am
(April 10, 2023 at 1:53 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (April 10, 2023 at 11:09 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why are you ignoring the question??
Maybe he likes the idea of 10 year old rape victims giving birth... sounds that way to me!
You like the idea of 10 year olds changing their gender. Cool and normal.
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