Parents of gay children

[Rob]

If any of my hypothetical children came out it wouldn't change my feelings towards them however I may feel that I had somehow failed at life.

Still, no point worrying over hypothetical people

[meowmeow]

I think my mother would like it if my brother was gay : the way she treats his girlfriends..., if he were gay : no jealousy!
I have no kids but a lot of gay and lesbian friends and some would like to have kids (I told one gay couple it would have been my childhood dream come true : think about it girls: 2 daddies and no mother!)

[Pippy]

Hey,

If I had a child (we'll see what life gives me), I would hope it not to be homosexual. I would not want my child to have to put up with the difficulty and danger of such a lifestyle. If she/he made that choice (or felt like it was a forced hand) I would stand by them. As a parent I could only want my offspring to be what they are, as honest as possible. I just hope gay is not what they are. Same with promiscuous, immoral, or pessimistic. I am not saying I don't like gayness, and if I do it is because I don't like broken gender roles, the mistreatment of sexuality or people making a lot of noise because they feel different.

There, a bunch of crap that will make me sound homophobic. Bottom line, I can't tell others what to do, and it would be rude of me to even state an opinion about homosexuality either way because it is none of my business. But let's say I am not too fond. I will always act right, as my god demands, but I don't have to like it. That goes for 90% of the world around me, so don't think I am being mean this time. 90% of straight couples make me retch too.

After all of that, one question. Meowmeow, why is it your childhood dream to have 2 dads and no mom? Just my thought, but that is unhealthy and strange. What would it have done to your social skills? We need more solid families to help create well-in-the-head children nowadays.

I should beg off, I know I am stepping on toes by not towing the party line about how much I love gays, and my gay friends make me a better person, and we should have a parade of indecent sexuality on main street every year! (One last time, to be clear it would offend me as much if it were a straight parade carried out in the same way. It is not the gayness, it is the sexuality of the situation that offends me deeply)
That didn't go well at all, but I am one of those people who is loved by god (gasp!). I look pretty stupid to you guys already...
Thank you all for your time.
"Take some time, to learn how to play",
-Pip

[Darwinian]

Don't worry. I know exactly what you mean.

[RookiePaul]

I honestly don't see how any parent who loves their children could have a problem with it. I take the stance that people don't make a choice (though some might experience out of curiosity) about being homosexual. Some research shows that it is genetic, just like being heterosexual. Therefore it is not a choice to correct Pippy. I don't even see why if people did in fact choice to be homosexual why anyone should have an issue with it. There is nothing wrong with it. As far as I'm concerned if two people love each other or don't and just want a physical relationship then that's completely their right as a human being. I'm straight but detest homophobia and unfortunately most of the hate preached towards homosexuality is done by the very faith systems that are supposed to promote love and unity, namely the fundamentalist Christian and Islamic faiths. Google "Westboro Baptist Church" to see what I mean.

[Pippy]

Hey,

That Westboro gang is about the very worst example of good christians there is. Try not to use those extremists as some typical example. That is the same as me looking up an atheist group that did or does horrible things and holding all of you accountable for it. And, keep in mind, I am not even christian, I just care about clarity. Homophobia is just another unfortunate reaction to the world around us. I am certainly not phobic of gayness, because I feel better with my gay co-workers next to me than one bee.

Thanks also Darwinian.
That is all.
"face saving promises whispered like prayers",
-Pip

[meowmeow]

After all of that, one question. Meowmeow, why is it your childhood dream to have 2 dads and no mom? Just my thought, but that is unhealthy and strange. What would it have done to your social skills? We need more solid families to help create well-in-the-head children nowadays.

it was just a joke (a have one of "those" daughter-mother relationships...) but as Freud taught us and as I can see in a lot of 4 or 5 year old girls it is normal and healthy for little girls to consider their mothers as their sworn enemy and to idolize their dad. But it's just a phase anyway, before you forget all about sexuality till the hormones kick back in your teens.

[Pippy]

Hey,

I see, I thought that may be all you meant. I had one of those relationships with my father, so it may be a classic case of us being different people. I hope you took no offense, I just thought to point out how your comment sounded strange to me. Thank you for your thoughts.

"To be safe up here with you",
-Pip

Oh yeah, on the post script... I disagree that Freud taught us much beyond the idea of psychoanalysis and therapy, other than some of us may have sexual/emotional issues. I find the majority of his work to be disgusting and incorrect in my own experiences. And I don't think I am denying the obvious Oedipus complex (beautiful alliteration, should be used in a song) that I am just wrong and of course I have sexual feelings for my parents. If I am alone in my difference from a Freudian man, than I stand by my self, and think every one else is weird. I don't think you are all like he said you are, and I know I am not. That's the short answer, i suppose. Why do I always have to argue? Ethnicity!

Thanks.

[Darwinian]

Just for comparison I posted exactly the same poll over at christianforums.com and here are the results..

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest ---------- 3 --- 25.00%
It would bother me but I'd try to accept it ----- 5 --- 41.67%
I couldn't accept it --------------------------- 4 --- 33.33%

[leo-rcc]

At least they are honest about it (though 12 votes is not a lot of a data source).