If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist

[R-Farmer]

sorry double post

[R-Farmer]

How many friends do you think you have made here? there have been a few affirming comments. for a couple different people who I'm sure don't want to be outted.
You started out good

I haven't changed any of what I started with. I have not personally attacked any of you. I have kept my comment strictly topical in that I only address the comments you all make. I only answer your questions and provide explanation if and when you request it.

and then, in short order, went off the rails trying everything under the sun to justify your belief to us and failing miserably.

if this were the case then I suspect you would want me around longer. as I would be easy pickings sort of a whipping boy that you could kick in the gut when ever you wanted to hate on god and feel justified in your beliefs. 70 pages of dialog resulting in personal ad hom attacks against your opponent says otherwise. Which again, does not have to be like this. I honestly think the only reason it is, is the expectation you all put on each other to dominate the christian and either leave them speechless or crying.

I have so many times in this discussion simply stood by my answer ignoring opportunity after opportunity you guys have provided to join you in an ad hom name calling contest. but me turning the other cheek here is not enough. You feel a need to humiliate me, for what? disagreeing with you?
for not rolling over and allowing you to dominate the subject matter with your stock atheist responses? Most of you guys are super smart, and you keep me on my toes. that is why I'm here despite all the personal attacks. because you offer a far superior challenge that the rank in file of reddit.

It should be obvious to you.

yes it is.

You do understand that atheists talk about other things than religion.

Which is why I seek to only occupy this space as to not intrude on your other 'personal spaces' Plus to be honest I do this stuff between phone calls and issues that come up at work. and it is everything I can do to keep up with all of you. I could go anywhere else and keep up. even my reddit postings have dropped.

If you want to believe in god that's fine by me, just don't expect me to agree, especially with the nonsense you post.

I truly don't have any expectation there.

Maybe it works for you and the other christians, if so great. But can't you tell that it's not working for the rest of the forum?

To borrow a line from one of my favorite shows as a kid. "Hunter" 'It works for me.'

You've become what we call a 'chew toy'. A desperate christian that will throw anything that comes to mind against the wall to see if it sticks. Hint, none so far has stuck.

just glad to be apart of the community./We all have roles to play.

If you can produce concrete evidence that there is a god then bring it. So far I haven't seen any, from you or any other christian, jew, muslim, hindu.............

To produce God is to have authority over God. I have no such authority. But I can tell you that God offers direct one on one time with all who seek Him on His terms.

[The Grand Nudger]

There it is again. Purely transactional, completely amoral.

[R-Farmer]

You've already crossed the "alien spaceship" rubicon.  That's pretty much the end for your ark bit as far as I'm concerned.  

ok cool that was an easy way to end the discussion..

Note to self; save spaceship argument to end discussions approaching the ad nauseaium threshold in the future.

You must mean gods godness, again, as there is no such thing as right, in fact, for there to be any righteousness, according to you.  Stop bickering with me.  

but I don't mean God's goodness. you use and think of morality as being a cosmic force that I'm trying to relabel as God's righteousness. When again there is no intrinsic good ness to God's righteousness here. Things are or Are not righteous simply because God identifies them as such. We through our morality then come back behind God and assign a moral value.

Tell me that I've got you all wrong or got you all right, and then at least we can have an honest discussion about whatever it is you really believe.  I think you believe in a purely transactional amoral worldview.

My belief is bible based. So if the Bible speaks in an absolute that is my position. Where things get 'fluid' are where things are not so absolute. Like the ark the tower of babble or maybe creation. I've got several theories for them. which again I'm not saying they are intentionally wrong or mis leading. I'm just of the position that if I am wrong in my theory, it will not effect my beliefs.

[R-Farmer]

alien spaceship is vastly more plausible than the flood and the ark because it actually doesn’t intrinsically violate any known laws of natural science.

Where as the story of the flood implicitly, one way or another, violates a whole array of them.

UFOlogists would be no more than innocently misguided enthusiasts compared to the level 10 ignorant morons that populate the flood myth community

There is a prevailing thought even among christians that the world preflood was not primitive at all but a society advanced perhaps beyond our own. So unless science has nailed down the composition of 'wormwood.' it could literally be some sort of alloy or futuristic building material that could have been used to construct a ship. and perhaps the Bronze Age writer of genesis knew of no other type of ship than a sea faring one. making the ark a boat rather than a starship.

Or even better the ark could have been a doomsday vault like they have in Colorado and in Norway. Where it is a massive system of caves dug into a mountain that contains ever variation of seed and even genetic material to maybe one day repopulate the earth like Noah's ark did.

But because the Bible says boat I'll stick with the boat... but come to find out it was a ship or cave, my belief in god will not change.

[R-Farmer]

So, yet again, a purely transactional and completely amoral worldview?

if that's how you see what I said in that post, then yes. this is the righteousness describe biblically. so it is what I wholly believe

[R-Farmer]

you think far too ludicrously highly of yourself if you think the likes of you can be anyone’s bogeyman, let along mine.

But seriously, on the scale of being disgracefully programmed by others to think a certain way,  being programmed in the 21st century by ignoramuses dead since the bronze age to think in a way that embodies the full measure of the ignorances of that primitive age is rather more disgracefully discreditable than most other places on that scale, don’t you think?

So you do or you don't want me to dial it back and allow you your free shots?

[arewethereyet]

Are you half Mexican or Cuban?

Mexican and or cuban is not a race of people. those are nationalities. you could be the product of a black Mexican and a black cuban and still be 100% black person. I am 1/2 white and 1/2 asian.

So you are Drich...interesting.

Talked with any angels lately?

[R-Farmer]

Mexican and or cuban is not a race of people. those are nationalities. you could be the product of a black Mexican and a black cuban and still be 100% black person. I am 1/2 white and 1/2 asian.

So you don't consider Asians to be white?  That might explain the dragon lady references.

nope.

what dragon lady references?

[R-Farmer]

There it is again.  Purely transactional, completely amoral.

I'm ok with that. if that describes What I described.