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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 10:56 pm
Well, I am still wondering what the batteries are supposed to be doing for that, right?
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 10:58 pm
I'll admit that my interest in ancient aliens has kind of ruined my life a little bit. I used to be interested in other things. Nowadays, I'm desensitized to anything people find interesting because everything pales in comparison to ancient aliens
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:02 pm
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I admit that the batteries aren't the smoking gun I thought they were
To end your wondering, I'll admit they have nothing to do with ancient aliens. I never meant for the batteries to be such a pivotal aspect of this; they're just the first thing that came to mind when I started thinking about concrete examples of a scripture getting something right
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:07 pm
I'm not sure if I'm interested in trying to argue my case any further
I just got into Mick West; for all I know, I might drop the ancient aliens shtick tomorrow. I'm a really fickle guy
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:12 pm
That just makes me even more curious. If the batteries were your idea of a smoking gun, the first thing that comes to mind....is the rest of it even less?
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:17 pm
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The rest of it:
Hindu scripture correctly stated the age of the Earth and the distance to the moon.
The Torah - in the professional opinion of Mauro Biglino - describes the ancient beings (Biglino has said they could be aliens) and their various flying spacecraft/aircraft
And then there's the emerald tablets
As the next point of contention, why don't we get into seeing what the Hebrew really says, or perhaps debunk the whole emerald tablets thing
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:33 pm
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(July 17, 2023 at 10:18 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: (July 17, 2023 at 9:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Really, prey tell how you come to believe some ancient text could actually refer to oxygen and hydrogen?
For whatever reason, oxygen and hydrogen seem to be the accepted translations of pranavayu and udanavayu
I'm not the one claiming they were talking about oxygen and hydrogen; the translations are ripped directly from the website.
Any time I look this up, every source seems to agree that one can confidently surmise that - in the greater context of the Agastya Samhita - it definitely seems they were describing oxygen and hydrogen
They knew pranavayu to be a life-giving gas and udanavayu to be a floating gas
Were they oxygen and hydrogen in the modern sense, with atomic numbers included? No. I guess in some sense they weren't referring to oxygen and hydrogen. Instead, we could say they were referring to a vital life-giving gas that we breathe in as well as a floating gas that can be used in balloons
You might want to check the findings noted in this link:
https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/did-a...ge-history
According to his findings, it appears as if this passage you quoted doesn't appear in any of the ancient Sanskrit texts, or rather it's not even a translation of anything written in those texts. Rather, some charlatan in the early 1900s provided a wacko interpretation (not translation, mind you) of some ancient poem, which then got confused by later dolts to be a part of the ancient texts and misrendered accordingly ...
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:36 pm
(July 17, 2023 at 11:33 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: (July 17, 2023 at 10:18 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: For whatever reason, oxygen and hydrogen seem to be the accepted translations of pranavayu and udanavayu
I'm not the one claiming they were talking about oxygen and hydrogen; the translations are ripped directly from the website.
Any time I look this up, every source seems to agree that one can confidently surmise that - in the greater context of the Agastya Samhita - it definitely seems they were describing oxygen and hydrogen
They knew pranavayu to be a life-giving gas and udanavayu to be a floating gas
Were they oxygen and hydrogen in the modern sense, with atomic numbers included? No. I guess in some sense they weren't referring to oxygen and hydrogen. Instead, we could say they were referring to a vital life-giving gas that we breathe in as well as a floating gas that can be used in balloons
You might want to check the findings noted in this link:
https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/did-a...ge-history
According to his findings, it appears as if this passage you quoted doesn't appear in any of the ancient Sanskrit texts, or rather it's not even a translation of anything written in those texts. Rather, some charlatan in the early 1900s provided a wacko interpretation (not translation, mind you) of some ancient poem, which then got confused by later dolts to be a part of the ancient texts ...
I acknowledge I've lost on this point. Thanks for pointing this out.
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:40 pm
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Vishnu Parana says that the moon and the sun are an equal distance away. Srimad Bhagavatum gives a very terse description of our solar system and it's planets as they saw it. All of them further away than the sun, including the moon which is 800k miles further away than the sun...which, according to them...rotates around the solar system at variable speeds. The claim that ancient hindu scriptures correctly state the distance to the moon isn't true. The claim is based on a guy named Aryabhata, who lived in the 5th century ce (right about the time of those batteries, btw). He was a mathmatician, and his calculation was based off observing solar eclipses. The earths shadow creates a curved boundary line on the moon, and using 4k m as an estimate of the earths circumference, he came up with a pretty good estimate for the distance to the moon. 239k miles.
As for the age of the earth, "hindumath" will actually get you an age of 155trillion years...give or take, it's all imaginary when the numbers get this big anyway, as false as the numbers offered for the solar system.
What do you have in mind for old magic book? Ezekiel?
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RE: Plausibility of ancient extraterrestrials
July 17, 2023 at 11:48 pm
I guess I just wanna know what parts of Mauro Biglino's translation of the Bible/Torah are accurate.
He seems very convinced that the Glory of God referred to the flying machine used by the ancient being called Yahweh. He also thinks that Sodom and Gomorrah were wiped out by the ancient beings (the Elohim) using something akin to an atomic bomb. I buy his explanation that Elohim doesn't refer to the supposed creator of the universe but instead refers to a multitude of ancient mortal beings who rode around in flying machines. I remember learning at some point that the bible says Yahweh was afraid of Elohim. It wouldn't make much sense for Yahweh to be afraid of himself.
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