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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:31 pm
If nothing else, it was a streamlined system for levying tax. Christianity shitcanned appropriative tolerance, but boy did they ever see the benefits of taxation.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:43 pm
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(July 26, 2023 at 7:59 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Nope, I soundly won it. Look at some of you Atheists declaring victory and thinking that means you won just by doing so, lol. Sorry, you need actual arguments for that: (1) Your famous Atheists like Darwin and Marx were Vicious Racists, while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:59 pm
(July 26, 2023 at 1:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Nope, I soundly won it. Look at some of you Atheists declaring victory and thinking that means you won just by doing so, lol. Sorry, you need actual arguments for that: (1) Your famous Atheists like Darwin and Marx were Vicious Racists, while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
Lincoln was racist himself. It was endemic of the times. Darwin was Christian most of his life, though he wised up late in life to become an agnostic.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:06 pm
Also, as a musician, here's something I appreciate that was inspired by Christian faith:
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:12 pm
Despite this being an obvious poke thread, I think I can post something good that Christianity has contributed.
Foster Care, the modern concept of Hospitals, graded levels of education, hygiene, industrial improvements, literacy, agriculture, abolition of indentured servitude, countless charities and I believe a majority of the Nobel laureates were Christian. It's woven all through multiple societies, governments, art, music, literature and (gasp) even science.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:16 pm
The real question isn't "what good has christianity contributed", but rather is christianity a viable solution for world peace?
The answer is obviously no. Christianity, through its internal division by subjective interpretation, has proven itself to not be a solution for world issues.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:32 pm
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(July 26, 2023 at 1:12 pm)tackattack Wrote: Despite this being an obvious poke thread, I think I can post something good that Christianity has contributed.
Foster Care, the modern concept of Hospitals, graded levels of education, hygiene, industrial improvements, literacy, agriculture, abolition of indentured servitude, countless charities and I believe a majority of the Nobel laureates were Christian. It's woven all through multiple societies, governments, art, music, literature and (gasp) even science.
The pre-Christian Romans had hospitals christian west could not match for nearly 1500 years until the late 1800s. It was excuses of christian piety that caused the formerly fastidious daily bathers of western europe to largely abandon bathing almost completely for perhaps a thousand years. The pre-christian romans almost certainly enjoyed much higher literacy rate than christian europe before the 19th century.
please site source of the claim that majority of Nobel Laureates in fields that deal with how things actually are, ie the natural sciences, are christian’s.
basically christianity like to claim dominion for its god over everything, so it certainly has no hesitation in claiming credit for everything, even when it is claiming credit for is the result of societies getting back to the level it had enjoyed before christianity.
Overreaching hutzpah in the service of its own aggrandizement is another miracle of christianity.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:41 pm
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While 93 percent of the members of the National Academy of Sciences,
one of the most elite scientific organizations in the United States, do not believe in God, ... is true,
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comment...l_academy/
the entire discussion is invalid in Logic.
It is an example of the "argumentum ad vericundiam", (the argument from authority) fallacy.
Their expertise is in science, not religions, philosophy or history.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:50 pm
(July 26, 2023 at 1:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Also, as a musician, here's something I appreciate that was inspired by Christian faith:
Bernstein used to say that the apex of Western Civilization were the quartets from Fidelio, and the the quartets from the last movement of the 9th symphony, (which I could never see)
I do think the Sanctus and Benedictus from the Missa Solemnis may fit THAT bill, but only because I've accompanied it with a good choir (and San Diego Symphony).
Western music really is not the possession of the religious. Many musicians who were not any sect wrote music for the church, as that was the only way to make a regular income.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 4:59 pm
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Despite this being an obvious poke thread, I think I can post something good that Christianity has contributed.
Quote:Foster Care
Adoption existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote:the modern concept of Hospitals,
Hospitals existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote: Graded levels of education,
Education existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote:Hygiene
Hygiene existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote:industrial improvements
Existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote:literacy
See above
Quote:agriculture
See above
Quote:abolition of indentured servitude
Only after using it for a long time, you don't get points for fixing a problem you caused
Quote:countless charities
Charity existed before Christianity and without Christianity
Quote:and I believe a majority of the Nobel laureates were Christian
Their religious conviction had nothing to do with their scientific accomplishments science works regardless of belief
Quote:. It's woven all through multiple societies, governments, art, music, literature and (gasp) even science.
All of those things existed before Christianity and without Christianity
So Christianity contributed nothing unique that something else wouldn't have already contributed and only Christain arrogance could think that no one else could do it.
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