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July 27, 2023 at 6:02 am
When Sinéad O’Connor tore up a picture of the Pope in 1992, over 70,000 children had been sexually abused by Catholic priests and brothers in Ireland.
Demonised by the State, the media and the Catholic Church, when so many stayed silent, she refused. She was the truth before many of us knew where to look.
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July 28, 2023 at 7:57 am
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July 31, 2023 at 1:28 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/p...72853&ei=6
Paul Reubens, actor best known as Pee-wee Herman, dies at 70
Actor Paul Reubens, who came to fame in the 1980s as children's TV star Pee-wee Herman, has died years after a cancer diagnosis, his team said Monday.
He was 70.
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July 31, 2023 at 1:39 pm
^70.  I'm 70 YO.
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RE: RIP thread
July 31, 2023 at 1:46 pm
(July 31, 2023 at 1:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/p...72853&ei=6
Paul Reubens, actor best known as Pee-wee Herman, dies at 70
Actor Paul Reubens, who came to fame in the 1980s as children's TV star Pee-wee Herman, has died years after a cancer diagnosis, his team said Monday.
He was 70.
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RE: RIP thread
July 31, 2023 at 7:48 pm
(July 31, 2023 at 1:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/p...72853&ei=6
Paul Reubens, actor best known as Pee-wee Herman, dies at 70
Actor Paul Reubens, who came to fame in the 1980s as children's TV star Pee-wee Herman, has died years after a cancer diagnosis, his team said Monday.
He was 70.
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RE: RIP thread
July 31, 2023 at 8:08 pm
(July 31, 2023 at 1:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/p...72853&ei=6
Paul Reubens, actor best known as Pee-wee Herman, dies at 70
Actor Paul Reubens, who came to fame in the 1980s as children's TV star Pee-wee Herman, has died years after a cancer diagnosis, his team said Monday.
He was 70.
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RE: RIP thread
July 31, 2023 at 8:56 pm
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(July 27, 2023 at 6:02 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: When Sinéad O’Connor tore up a picture of the Pope in 1992, over 70,000 children had been sexually abused by Catholic priests and brothers in Ireland.
Demonised by the State, the media and the Catholic Church, when so many stayed silent, she refused. She was the truth before many of us knew where to look.
Well, she may have been the truth, but she didn't exactly tell the truth. Here's the original performance, guess what was missing?
If you answered "any explanation as to why the seemingly universally-beloved Pope John Paul II qualified as 'The Real Enemy,'" you would be correct. Granted, she changed a verse to be about child abuse, but it would be almost a decade until the Boston Globe blew the whistle on the RCC's history of child molestation coverups, launching the subject into public knowledge. And while there were occasional references to children molesting priests, John Q. Public had about as much context for those jokes as Family Guy's 2005 audience had to appreciate this joke:
And, in addition to that, Sinead O'Connor had a history with the Magdalene Laundries, something that, at the time of her SNL appearance, would have been next to unknown in America.
Sinead, however, mentioned NONE of that. She didn't even bring the church into this until she showed that photo while she sang the word "Evil." It took her several weeks before she even explained herself.
Of course, it turned out she was absolutely right.
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But who else wound up being absolutely right? Madonna, when she said: "I think there is a better way to present her ideas rather than ripping up an image that means a lot to other people ... If she is against the Roman Catholic Church and she has a problem with them, I think she should talk about it." Maybe not about ripping up the photo being bad, but definitely about how she should have talked about her issues with the RCC.
Seriously, I suspect that if she said something like, "The Roman Catholic Church has covered up the abuse of thousands of children in my home country alone. Fight the real enemy!" Her mainstream career might have survived.
And because she didn't, she became a case study in why optics are vital in raising consciousness of important issues like this.
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RE: RIP thread
July 31, 2023 at 10:58 pm
She spoke her piece. Sometimes people should be disturbed.
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August 1, 2023 at 12:29 am
(July 31, 2023 at 10:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: She spoke her piece. Sometimes people should be disturbed.
Technically. She just left out crucial context until it was too late.
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