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Do you think Atheists are stupid?
#91
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 3:14 am)Authari Wrote:
(January 3, 2024 at 1:05 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: @Authari

Prove to me that God exists. Then we can discuss who's stupid and/or deluded.  Dodgy

I have no objection to believing in a god as long as proof based upon a rational standard of knowledge is forthcoming. Is that too much to ask? But surely theists can’t expect me to adopt their beliefs on the basis of what has been presented thus far. Every “proof” I’ve heard and every piece of evidence I’ve seen for the existence of god(s) is easily countered by rational evidence and arguments to the contrary. No convincing evidence for the existence of any deity has ever emerged. But I’m more than willing to listen to theistic arguments or view theistic evidence as long as cross-examination is permitted. As conditions now stand, theology rests far more on superstition and faith than upon facts and reason.

Energy is the essence of Sentience, the whole universe is made of energy, ergo the entire universe is sentient. It took me 10 years to come up with that philosophy but at the end of the day I satisfactorily proved the existence of God to myself who was then an atheist.

That's absurdly fallacious. Energy is the essence of everything, but you've singled out one thing to hang your Silly Hat on. One might as well say, 'Energy is the essence of my lawnmower. The whole universe is made of energy, ergo, the entire universe is my lawnmower.'  That's pretty stupid.

Quote: I had a lot of vexation in my heart towards God. So I speak from experience when talking about my own crises of faith. 

If you vexatious about God, you weren't an atheist. If you weren't so stupid, you'd understand that.

Quote:The fact of the matter is most people on this forum are here to stroke their own egos I know I used to be an atheist and hang out on atheist forums. 

It seems that you're still hanging out on atheist forums. Are you so stupid that you don't realize that?

Quote:Its sad that people can not be honest about their feelings towards God. Many here suffer from the same vexation I had but they'll never admit it.

Atheists have neither feelings toward God nor vexation about God. You seem to be too stupid to understand what atheism actually entails.

Quote:I live a life now knowing that there is this great sentience that permeates the cosmos and ordains all things according to its laws. 

You don't 'know' anything of the sort. You simply believe it. Not knowing the difference between the two demonstrates your stupidity.

Quote:Do I flatter myself by imagining that I am more special than anyone else? No, 

Yes, you do. Anyone stupid enough to think they've sussed out some imaginary grand scheme to the universe base on nothing more than personal introspection DOES think they're special. No getting round it.

Quote:but I do hold life as something sacred, so in that regard I view all life as something 'special' in and of itself. 

Really? 'All life'? Does that include cancer cells? Yersinia pestis? Typhus bacteria? Be less stupid.

Quote:Sometimes if you want proof for the existence of God you have to find it yourself, and so I did. Its easy to take a position that aligns with your current beliefs, but its difficult going against the grain to try to prove yourself wrong.

But you didn't do any such thing. You were never an atheist, you've always believed in God. You simply came up with some silly, stupid, unverifiable notion about a sentient universe to justify the belief that you've already had.

'Stupid is as stupid does.' - Forrest Gump.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#92
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 3, 2024 at 10:50 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 3, 2024 at 10:26 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: they can't reconcile their Faith with Science??   I don't have a faith to reconcile, and never did have

If a god made everything then where was he/it before he made it?

Outside of time and space.

Did yahweh have to create this outside of time and space or like god, it always existed?

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#93
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 5:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(January 3, 2024 at 10:50 am)Ahriman Wrote: Outside of time and space.

Did yahweh have to create this outside of time and space or like god, it always existed?

It always existed.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#94
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 5:47 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 5:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Did yahweh have to create this outside of time and space or like god, it always existed?

It always existed.

So yahweh didn’t create everything including itself 


What other special pleading do you offer?

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#95
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 6:04 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 5:47 am)Ahriman Wrote: It always existed.

So yahweh didn’t create everything including itself 


What other special pleading do you offer?

Not sure what you mean by that.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#96
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 5:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 3:14 am)Authari Wrote: Energy is the essence of Sentience, the whole universe is made of energy, ergo the entire universe is sentient. It took me 10 years to come up with that philosophy but at the end of the day I satisfactorily proved the existence of God to myself who was then an atheist.

That's absurdly fallacious. Energy is the essence of everything, but you've singled out one thing to hang your Silly Hat on. One might as well say, 'Energy is the essence of my lawnmower. The whole universe is made of energy, ergo, the entire universe is my lawnmower.'  That's pretty stupid.

Quote: I had a lot of vexation in my heart towards God. So I speak from experience when talking about my own crises of faith. 

If you vexatious about God, you weren't an atheist. If you weren't so stupid, you'd understand that.

Quote:The fact of the matter is most people on this forum are here to stroke their own egos I know I used to be an atheist and hang out on atheist forums. 

It seems that you're still hanging out on atheist forums. Are you so stupid that you don't realize that?

Quote:Its sad that people can not be honest about their feelings towards God. Many here suffer from the same vexation I had but they'll never admit it.

Atheists have neither feelings toward God nor vexation about God. You seem to be too stupid to understand what atheism actually entails.

Quote:I live a life now knowing that there is this great sentience that permeates the cosmos and ordains all things according to its laws. 

You don't 'know' anything of the sort. You simply believe it. Not knowing the difference between the two demonstrates your stupidity.

Quote:Do I flatter myself by imagining that I am more special than anyone else? No, 

Yes, you do. Anyone stupid enough to think they've sussed out some imaginary grand scheme to the universe base on nothing more than personal introspection DOES think they're special. No getting round it.

Quote:but I do hold life as something sacred, so in that regard I view all life as something 'special' in and of itself. 

Really? 'All life'? Does that include cancer cells? Yersinia pestis? Typhus bacteria? Be less stupid.

Quote:Sometimes if you want proof for the existence of God you have to find it yourself, and so I did. Its easy to take a position that aligns with your current beliefs, but its difficult going against the grain to try to prove yourself wrong.

But you didn't do any such thing. You were never an atheist, you've always believed in God. You simply came up with some silly, stupid, unverifiable notion about a sentient universe to justify the belief that you've already had.

'Stupid is as stupid does.' - Forrest Gump.

Boru

Oh did I strike nerve?
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#97
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 6:21 am)Authari Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 5:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's absurdly fallacious. Energy is the essence of everything, but you've singled out one thing to hang your Silly Hat on. One might as well say, 'Energy is the essence of my lawnmower. The whole universe is made of energy, ergo, the entire universe is my lawnmower.'  That's pretty stupid.


If you vexatious about God, you weren't an atheist. If you weren't so stupid, you'd understand that.


It seems that you're still hanging out on atheist forums. Are you so stupid that you don't realize that?


Atheists have neither feelings toward God nor vexation about God. You seem to be too stupid to understand what atheism actually entails.


You don't 'know' anything of the sort. You simply believe it. Not knowing the difference between the two demonstrates your stupidity.


Yes, you do. Anyone stupid enough to think they've sussed out some imaginary grand scheme to the universe base on nothing more than personal introspection DOES think they're special. No getting round it.


Really? 'All life'? Does that include cancer cells? Yersinia pestis? Typhus bacteria? Be less stupid.


But you didn't do any such thing. You were never an atheist, you've always believed in God. You simply came up with some silly, stupid, unverifiable notion about a sentient universe to justify the belief that you've already had.

'Stupid is as stupid does.' - Forrest Gump.

Boru

Oh did I strike nerve?

Not in the least - you're about as troublesome in my world as a cloudy day.

But if you're going to call atheists 'stupid', you might want to take a long, hard look at yourself first.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#98
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 6:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 6:21 am)Authari Wrote: Oh did I strike nerve?

Not in the least - you're about as troublesome in my world as a cloudy day.

But if you're going to call atheists 'stupid', you might want to take a long, hard look at yourself first.

Boru

I cracked the bible, proved the existence of God and King Arthur, as well as Elves... I have a long history of proving things beyond a reasonable doubt. And really its not my fault that atheists claim they're critical thinkers but then go right to believing in the Big Bang Theory.
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#99
RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 6:30 am)Authari Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 6:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not in the least - you're about as troublesome in my world as a cloudy day.

But if you're going to call atheists 'stupid', you might want to take a long, hard look at yourself first.

Boru

I cracked the bible, proved the existence of God and King Arthur, as well as Elves... I have a long history of proving things beyond a reasonable doubt. And really its not my fault that atheists claim they're critical thinkers but then go right to believing in the Big Bang Theory.

Of course you have. Ooo’s a big, smart boy? He iz, yezzum is!

Fucking moron.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Do you think Atheists are stupid?
(January 4, 2024 at 6:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 4, 2024 at 6:30 am)Authari Wrote: I cracked the bible, proved the existence of God and King Arthur, as well as Elves... I have a long history of proving things beyond a reasonable doubt. And really its not my fault that atheists claim they're critical thinkers but then go right to believing in the Big Bang Theory.

Of course you have. Ooo’s a big, smart boy? He iz, yezzum is!

Fucking moron.

Boru


Whence do you see Authari? Whence do you see Organa? Arthur and Morganna? No! Authari and Organa! Organa the Avar or you could say Alfar (ancient norse word for Elf) and so you see the Avars were indeed the Alfar or Elves and they were an asian people so all asians are actually elves. Big Grin
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