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RE: Stupid things religious people say
August 27, 2024 at 7:29 am
(August 27, 2024 at 7:15 am)Belacqua Wrote: (August 26, 2024 at 7:18 pm)Modern Atheism Wrote: If I am not mistaken, what some claim is that the original results are wrong because the researchers took the sample out of a part that was added in the middle ages.
Seems to me like researchers have to be quite inept not to notice something like this.
Wishful thinking is an incredibly powerful force.
One sees it everywhere.
Given the fact that the RCC will practically trip over its collective feet to endorse miracles and relics, I find it telling the Church won't declare the Shroud to be authentic.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
August 27, 2024 at 3:16 pm
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Enough with those wrong Christians whom everyone hates, like Ken Ham and those dumb creationists. Let's hear what the real, intellectual Christians have to say today.
Quote:Could the occult creep into your daily life without you even knowing?
On this episode of "The Catholic Talk Show," Ryan Scheel, Ryan DellaCrosse, and Father Mac Hill team up with Charles Fraune, author of The Occult Among Us, to discuss ways Catholics can protect themselves from the occult.
It can be difficult for Catholics to recognize the dangers because today’s culture subtly normalizes occult practices. DellaCrosse says fascination with the unknown can lead many down a dark path.
Oh, so the whole society is corrupt when it's pushing us in the occult. Probably because it strained from theocracy.
Quote:"Curiosity ropes a lot of people in," he says. "They're not getting into it to be in an occult, but they're being impacted by the occult."
Of course, people shouldn't be curious, but listen to the Church without question because it will lead them to the occult which is pretty much the devil.
Quote:From trendy crystals to tarot readings, the occult is increasingly accepted – often marketed as harmless or even therapeutic.
So what harm will happen to me if I have a crystal in my house or even around my neck? Or someone reads me tarot cards? Have they done a study?
Quote:"The occult is popping up in small towns—unexpected places," Charles warns. "It seems like the occult is trying to flower, trying to come out from the shadows from the hidden realms and be public.”
Whatever that means.
Quote:Even seemingly innocent apps and marketplaces promote occult practices. These platforms are flooded with occult items, including spells and charms. “There are still hundreds of thousands of spells—like death spells—that you can buy...”
Spells and charms! Are we living in a Disney cartoon now? Why don't they throw a death spell on Putin?
Quote:Charles suggests being mindful of the media we consume and the products we bring into our homes. He encourages parents to have open conversations with their children about the dangers of these practices.
Yes, imagine having a conversation with your child or anyone about the dangers of spells.
Quote:“The Church going there, building a bridge back. God can heal you, God can sanctify these wounds that you’re carrying."
We can safeguard our loved ones from these hidden threats through prayer, sacramentals, and a strong faith life.
https://www.churchpop.com/exorcists-reve...o-spot-it/
Of course, it all comes down to the ultimate religious scam: selling the cure for the nonexistent disease.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 2, 2024 at 9:14 am
Christians can certainly believe in the occult... they will just call it demonic powers or something like that. I guess once you believe a superstition it becomes easy to believe in another one.
If only they could cast a spell to increase their IQ Our problems would be solved
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 2, 2024 at 3:59 pm
Atheists claim that the Catholic church is useless, and yet it is trying to warn us against the demons we may summon by reading children's books and watching TV shows.
Quote:Magic is not 'harmless fun,' priest says
It's been more than 25 years since J.K. Rowling published her debut novel, "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone." To say it was a success story would be an understatement.
But, while at first glance, an interest in magic or even the occult might look like just harmless fun, Catholics should be aware of what the church teaches about such things and the very real dangers associated with what Pope Francis often refers to as "bad spirits."
This is all the more important since the interest shown by wider society in the occult shows no signs of waning, to just look at some of the latest releases from streaming service Netflix, especially for teens. All of this means that Catholics, particularly parents, need to be aware of what they are dealing with and the need to warn vulnerable people, especially the young.
So, what are Catholics to make of such a program?
Both the Old Testament and New Testament are clear in their denunciation of witchcraft as not being from God.
The traditional Catholic approach has been to condemn magic as being from the devil, believing that it opens the way for demonic possession.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is firm in asserting the church's teaching. In paragraph 2117, it notes: "All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others – even if this were for the sake of restoring their health – are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion."
Fr. Pat Collins is a Vincentian priest based in Dublin who specializes in exorcism, or deliverance ministry as he prefers to call it. He believes that as faith has waned in many Western countries, interest in the occult has increased.
He warned that despite the secular rush to condemn or make fun of concerns about magic and the occult, it's clear that Catholics need to be careful not to be indifferent or superficial about the real dangers inherent in practices that open one up to dark forces that are undoubtedly present and, in the words of the traditional prayer to St. Michael to ward off evil, "wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls."
https://www.detroitcatholic.com/news/mag...es-program
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 2, 2024 at 6:48 pm
(September 2, 2024 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Atheists claim that the Catholic church is useless, and yet it is trying to warn us against the demons we may summon by reading children's books and watching TV shows.
Quote:Magic is not 'harmless fun,' priest says
It's been more than 25 years since J.K. Rowling published her debut novel, "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone." To say it was a success story would be an understatement.
But, while at first glance, an interest in magic or even the occult might look like just harmless fun, Catholics should be aware of what the church teaches about such things and the very real dangers associated with what Pope Francis often refers to as "bad spirits."
This is all the more important since the interest shown by wider society in the occult shows no signs of waning, to just look at some of the latest releases from streaming service Netflix, especially for teens. All of this means that Catholics, particularly parents, need to be aware of what they are dealing with and the need to warn vulnerable people, especially the young.
So, what are Catholics to make of such a program?
Both the Old Testament and New Testament are clear in their denunciation of witchcraft as not being from God.
The traditional Catholic approach has been to condemn magic as being from the devil, believing that it opens the way for demonic possession.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is firm in asserting the church's teaching. In paragraph 2117, it notes: "All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others – even if this were for the sake of restoring their health – are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion."
Fr. Pat Collins is a Vincentian priest based in Dublin who specializes in exorcism, or deliverance ministry as he prefers to call it. He believes that as faith has waned in many Western countries, interest in the occult has increased.
He warned that despite the secular rush to condemn or make fun of concerns about magic and the occult, it's clear that Catholics need to be careful not to be indifferent or superficial about the real dangers inherent in practices that open one up to dark forces that are undoubtedly present and, in the words of the traditional prayer to St. Michael to ward off evil, "wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls."
https://www.detroitcatholic.com/news/mag...es-program
Who was that one guy that did these things............ oh yeah,
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 3, 2024 at 4:10 pm
This is a rather interesting event: 120 Christians become Hindu again after they quickly realize they've been duped by Christians's lies and false promises.
Quote:120 Christians revert to Hinduism during ‘Ghar Wapsi’ event in Jharkhand
The families, who had been converted to Christianity by missionaries several months prior, were welcomed back into Hinduism at a ceremony held at the Shiv temple in Barka Khurd. The event featured a traditional foot-washing ritual and was accompanied by chants of “Om,” reflecting the ceremony’s spiritual significance.
According to several women who participated in the reversion, they had initially been invited to satsangs under the guise of discussing Shiv Charcha, but were instead introduced to Christian teachings and offered financial incentives. This method, they claim, was used to facilitate their conversion.
The Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and other Hindu organizations have accused Christian missionaries of targeting economically disadvantaged families through faith-healing sessions known as ‘changai sabhas,’ where participants are promised cures for their ailments.
Chandrakant Raipat, the provincial president of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, called for immediate action by authorities to identify and address those involved in converting Hindus under the pretext of health cures. Raipat emphasized that such deceptive practices constitute a criminal act.
https://www.pgurus.com/120-christians-re...jharkhand/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 3, 2024 at 4:27 pm
^Swapping one religion for another is like swapping athlete’s foot for irritable bowel syndrome.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 4, 2024 at 3:50 pm
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Art of the deal. Here's a way to get rich without much work.
You claim that your house is possessed, and then the gullible people, already brainwashed by religion, help you by hallucinating and lying for Jesus to expand the story and make it more believable so that you become a celebrity and they make a documentary and a Hollywood movie about you where the Oscar nominated actress, Glenn Close, plays you.
Quote:‘The Deliverance’ True Story: What to Know About Latoya Ammons and the 200 Demons House
The Deliverance was inspired by a “true story” of a woman named Latoya Ammons, who claimed her there was a demonic spirit that lived in her house that was possessing her and her three children, in Gary, Indiana in 2011. The Deliverance changed Latoya’s name to “Ebony” and moved the story to Pittsburgh. But many of the details in the film came from Ammons’ testimony. According to the movie’s credits, the real Latoya Ammons served as an associate producer on The Deliverance.
Latoya Ammons became a local Indiana celebrity in 2014, when The Indy Star wrote an over-6,000-word feature on her so-called experience with demonic possession. As the article details, Ammons moved into a rental home on Carolina Street in Gary, Indiana in November 2011, with her three children (ages 7, 9, and 12) and her mother, Rosa Campbell.
For the first few months, according to Ammons and Campbell, they heard strange noises in the house and battled a “not normal” amount of houseflies. In March, mother and daughter claimed they witnessed Ammons’ 12-year-old daughter levitating above the bed. Ammons covered her house in religious iconography. But then, she claims, things got worse. She claimed her kids “eyes bulged, evil smiles crossed their faces, and their voices deepened,” and therefore must be possessed by demons, and not just kids being weird. She said her youngest boy “sat in a closet talking to a boy that no one else could see.”
The DCS caseworker and a nurse took the 9-year-old boy into an examination room. The DCS report claimed the boy “walked backward up a wall to the ceiling. He then flipped over Campbell, landing on his feet.” The nurse, Willie Lee Walker, told The Star he had witnessed this. But The Star also noted that Walker “said he previously believed in demons and spirits.”
On May 10, 2012, a priest—Rev. Michael Maginot—performed a minor exorcism on the house and on Ammons. A month later, he performed three major exorcisms on Ammons at his church. Ammons and her family left the house in Gary and moved to Indianapolis, where, apparently, they are no longer plagued by demons.
It’s true that the “200 demons house” on Carolina Street in Gary, Indiana became something of a local ghost story.
In 2016, a “ghost hunter” TV personality, Zak Bagans, had the house demolished as part of his 2018 documentary, Demon House, a film that the Los Angeles Times called “hooey.” But if you’re interested, you can stream Demon House on Amazon Prime. Bagans bought the house in 2014, shortly after the initial Indy Star feature was published.
https://decider.com/2024/08/30/the-deliv...ouse-real/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 4, 2024 at 5:26 pm
Imagine risking your life to save those tasteless cookies to, I guess, not offend the man in the sky.
French priest enters burning church to save Blessed Sacrament
The deputy mayor called Fr. Roussel at 4 a.m. to let him know the church was burning. According to an unofficial English translation of the report, Fr. Roussel said, “I went to the scene immediately. Everything caught fire very quickly; the bell tower burned like a torch…”
He entered the church with the firefighters’ permission. Fr. Roussel explained, “I wanted to evacuate the Blessed Sacrament (consecrated hosts) and the reliquary bust of Saint Cornelius,” and he successfully rescued the Eucharist and the relic from the fire. He was also able to save a few statues.
https://catholicvote.org/french-priest-e...sacrament/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
September 6, 2024 at 1:03 am
(September 4, 2024 at 5:26 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Imagine risking your life to save those tasteless cookies to, I guess, not offend the man in the sky.
Did he use holy water to put out the fire? lol
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