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Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
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Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
As a Universalist after the Order of Melchizedek, i have my own ontological absolutes.
However, I'm not here to convince anyone of my ideology.
I would like to see how the intelligentsia of this forum responds to the heading.



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#2
RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.

Your question isn’t really answerable as written.

Boru
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
(October 3, 2024 at 7:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.

Your question isn’t really answerable as written.

Boru

Feel free to reframe the question.
So we can move on to - Is Everything Happening by Cause and Effect?
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
(October 3, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Lord Andreasson Wrote:
(October 3, 2024 at 7:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.

Your question isn’t really answerable as written.

Boru

Feel free to reframe the question.
So we can move on to - Is Everything Happening by Cause and Effect?

lol, why should I? It’s YOUR question - you reframe it.

Your second question is also not answerable as written. I’m starting to think you don’t really understand causality.

Boru
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
When it comes to abstraction, I prefer to restrict it to my fiction writing.
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
QM shows that sometimes things don't happen for Causes™. But that realm is so small that the assumption that things have causes is probably solid on a day-by-day basis.

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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
I get the feeling that the OP/this thread will get around to the first cause being a supernatural, outside of reality, can't have infinite regression, creator creature.
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
(October 3, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Lord Andreasson Wrote:
(October 3, 2024 at 7:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.

Your question isn’t really answerable as written.

Boru

Feel free to reframe the question.
So we can move on to - Is Everything Happening by Cause and Effect?

If so, we would be speaking about everything within the universe happening by Cause and Effect. The universe itself would be a different matter.
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
(October 3, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Lord Andreasson Wrote:
(October 3, 2024 at 7:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.

Your question isn’t really answerable as written.

Boru

Feel free to reframe the question.
So we can move on to - Is Everything Happening by Cause and Effect?

Atomic decay and virtual particles don't seem to have causes, so I'd say no; but on a human scale and up, yes; with the caveat that cause and effect are things we observe withing the universe and may not apply to how/why the universe began, if it really did.
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RE: Is "Cause and Effect" Scientific?
Seems so, and trivially so, even. We can observe, form hypotheses, test those hypotheses, and share the results. This is how we know, for example..that rain is in fact caused by local condensation. A question that seems equally trivial to us today but was once believed to have something to do with satisfying the right set of ghosts by one or another novel set of metrics. Also testable, and provably false.
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