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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 1:01 am
Quote:ou "perceive" this, but like many things it's a false perception based on internal biases and ignorance of the actual positions held by your opponents.
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Declaration on Euthanasia, - May 5, 1980
II. Catechism of the Catholic Church:
[b]Suicide
2280 - Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.[/b]
They can say whatever they like it's about control
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 1:01 am
Quote:Perhaps, but it's not a matter of what value it is to us - rather that we respect what value it intrinsically holds.
"Put on life" was the wrong way of wording it I suppose; "Are given on life" would have been more theologically correct.
It's not about life it's about control
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 2:15 am
(December 4, 2024 at 12:33 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (December 4, 2024 at 12:26 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Perhaps, but it's not a matter of what value it is to us - rather that we respect what value it intrinsically holds.
"Put on life" was the wrong way of wording it I suppose; "Are given on life" would have been more theologically correct.
The intrinsic value of life is that you have to torture someone by condemning him to a life of unbearable pain against his will.
In other words, you are full of shit.
Considering you didn't get a damned thing right, I would reckon at least one of us full of something.
It seems to be coming out your mouth though, so I ain't sure it's shit.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 2:47 am
(December 4, 2024 at 1:01 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Quote:Perhaps, but it's not a matter of what value it is to us - rather that we respect what value it intrinsically holds.
"Put on life" was the wrong way of wording it I suppose; "Are given on life" would have been more theologically correct.
It's not about life it's about control
It's not about easing their suffering, it's about hatred of humanity.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 3:21 am
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(December 4, 2024 at 2:47 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: It's not about easing their suffering, it's about hatred of humanity.
Respecting people's will is not the hate of humanity. What the Catholic Church does is force its will on adult people, which is abuse.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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December 4, 2024 at 3:31 am
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Quote:It's not about easing their suffering, it's about hatred of humanity.
Nah it's about easing human suffering which could less hateful towards humanity if it tried.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 3:34 am
Quote:Considering you didn't get a damned thing right, I would reckon at least one of us full of something.
Nah he gets everything right
Quote:It seems to be coming out your mouth though, so I ain't sure it's shit.
That's all that comes out of your you should have a doctor look at that
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 4:45 am
(December 3, 2024 at 10:08 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: (December 3, 2024 at 9:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: ... Your idea of justification will boil down to white supremacist garbage...
Yep, Christianity is an inherently white religion.
Then so is Islam. That must sting a little bit, eh?
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 4, 2024 at 4:55 am
One of my favourite theologians weighs in on this:
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December 4, 2024 at 5:20 am
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(December 3, 2024 at 9:11 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Quote:he official dogmatic line is that assisted dying ticks all three boxes for being a mortal (rather than a venial) sin - it is grave, it is done with knowledge of the gravity of the act, and it is done with consent.
Right; the mortal sin being the taking of a life, hence my statement that secularists/atheists tend to fundamentally misunderstand the value that Christians' put on human life.
No, taking a life is not, in and of itself, a mortal sin. Don't be stupid.
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