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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 7:01 am
(December 31, 2011 at 8:44 pm)Voltair Wrote: Fr0do where the hell have you been? I haven't seen you in awhile 
(January 1, 2012 at 1:54 am)passionatefool Wrote: I think logic, skepticism, and rational thinking should be introduce to children at young age so they wont be brainwashed and shut down the logic part of their brain lol.
Me too. Do you think athesm would be no more if that was the case?
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Personally, when I raise my children I am going to aim to teach them how to think/ask questions not what to think. If my children arrive at belief in a deity I may try to reason with them about it but I will not tell/force on them atheism. I think teaching people how to think/apply reason and letting them find their own path is the ultimate definition of freedom.
I will most definitely intervene though if they start getting scared that some being is going to torch them or that there is something watching them do everything including peeing.
Fr0do answer my question  where have you been?!
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm
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(January 1, 2012 at 5:14 am)Godschild Wrote: So what you're saying is that you want children to be brainwashed by you. You should hang around more christians, you might find us logical, intelligent, fun loving people
logical and rational thinking is a life skill. It isnt brainwashing because it gives them the ability and freedom to think and question on their own without fear. Give them a chance to see it from a different perspective. it is only brainwashing when I take away their freedom of thought to become a theist if they wish to after given the freedom to think and investigate for themselves.....something theist parents wont do.
(January 1, 2012 at 1:54 am)passionatefool Wrote: Me too. Do you think athesm would be no more if that was the case?
Lol if that is ever the case ( I wont be alive to witness it) and religion is no more, the term atheism would lose its meaning and not necessary anymore. It wouldnt make any sense using it.
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Quote:So what you're saying is that you want children to be brainwashed by you.
Certainly better than being brainwashed by crazy old cultists like you, G-C.
Hey, it's 2012. Where the fuck is your "jesus?" Bastard let another year go by.
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm
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Using logic while arguing with a christian,is like yelling at someone who you know is deaf.
Therefore,pointless.
(January 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:So what you're saying is that you want children to be brainwashed by you.
Certainly better than being brainwashed by crazy old cultists like you, G-C.
Hey, it's 2012. Where the fuck is your "jesus?" Bastard let another year go by.
I wish rapture would happen *sigh*
Finally we'd be free from ignorance,hatred and wars.
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm
(January 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm)Voltair Wrote: Fr0do answer my question where have you been?!
Having more interesting things to do / otherwise distracted. Some domestic issues *ahem*  plus other stuffs you really don't want me to bore you with. *evil stare*
This place kinda sucks up your life if you let it. Gotta step back every now and then I guess. How about you? What you bin up to old fella?
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Fr0d0, is that a butt-cake in your avatar?
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 9:17 pm
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 1, 2012 at 11:07 pm
(December 31, 2011 at 5:56 pm)padraic Wrote: Oh goody,just what we need,ANOTHER angry atheist.
Damn right.
Quote: Rather than telling us what you're AGAINST,perhaps tell us what you are FOR.
Gale is FOR "ripping religion from anyone I can". This seems like a positive use of energy.
Quote:"Flawless logic' WOW! Can't wait to see THAT. I don't think we have another trained logician.
Give Gale a break - saying "fucking wibbly wibble" is flawless logic compared to theistic waffle.
Quote:Just a tint niggle; wanting to tear down religion because [implicitly) the world will be a better place is neither rational nor logical. It's Utopian/magical thinking..
Religion needs to be destroyed. I'm in Gale's corner.
Quote:ME ?recovering Catholic for over 40 years. I think organised religion is parasitical and a carbuncle on the arse of humanity. I'm also confident that if religion disappeared overnight we humans would remain the same greedy,stupid,self destructive animals we have always been.You would probably notice a different set of justifications, but no difference whatsoever in the behaviour of our species. .
You're probably right - get rid of religion and climate change or something else will fill the gap.
However, let's try and find out.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
January 2, 2012 at 1:21 am
Oh I have been wasting a lot of time, relaxing, talking, etc Fr0d0. I finished that manifesto of mine too but I will stop there before I get in trouble for hi-jacking the thread :p.
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